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What do you think of our tax dollars funding abortions in foreign countries.

I am a Christian, pro-life and a Conservative. I knew that President Obama was a pro-choice supporter before he was elected (one of many reasons why I did not vote for him). But his second act on his first day (after closing Gitmo) was to sign into law was using our tax dollars to fund abortions in foreign countries. What is your take on this situation.


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Maybe he figures the economics favor killing them in the womb versus bombing and bullets.

Posted 2009-02-01T04:17:38Z
 
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I think that, as a Christian, I should not legally be made to pay taxes that are going to fund abortions

Posted 2009-02-01T04:53:40Z
 
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Pres. Obama's views on abortion were well known before the election, and while it rallied the conservative Christian's, it wasn't enough to make the difference.  Over turning what has been called the Mexico City accord is the easiest task he can do to appease those in the pro-abortion movement.  However, keep in mind he promised that if elected, that he would sign the FOCA (Freedom of Choice Act) if it were approved by Congress and came to him for signing.

So, the pro-abortionists have their first "victory" if you could call it that, and I feel that this action should rally all who favor any restrictions on abortions, whether it be parental notification, barring late term, or third trimester abortions, informed consent, the right of Doctors and Nurses to opt out of performing abortions because of their personal beliefs, or any of the other laws that are in place, must make the effort now to tell their elected officials to oppose this legislation.

The only group FOCA protects are those who wish to see abortion on demand, with no restrictions, become the law of the land, and removing any and all States Rights to legislate it according to the will of the local constituency.

Even if you are pro-abortion, this legislation goes to far, as evidnced in a poll done just prior to the election, where 82% of those polled favored some restrictions on abortion.

T

Posted 2009-02-01T05:54:24Z
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Smile  If it's funny, laugh. If it isn't funny, laugh anyway!  Smile

I am also a Christian, and conservative. However, I do believe in ones right to choose, but I don't believe that abortion should be government funded or sponsored, or paid for by the tax payers. Thats my short answer.

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Posted 2009-02-01T12:36:30Z
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What is  never explained is the bill is not about abortion.  It is  education.  It is about preventing sexually transmitted diseases, preventing unwanted pregnancies, geneal health.  The public is not aware that there are countries where children are born  and killed or dumped out on the streets to fend for themselves,grow up if they survive to lives of crime.   It happens in our country,too.  Prevention is so much better than abortion.  No one is promoting abortion as the best thing to do. The politicians use it  to incite fervor in their base, but then do nothing about.  If you  think the Republicans do anything about it, look  back to 1973,  Nixon, Ford; Reagan. Bush 0ne, Bush Two. 26 years of  them and  only 12 of dems, and they did nothing about it.   So, in the end, don't  expect the politicians to change it. It is a moral issue..  If you don't believe in it, do not  do it.  If you strongly oppose it for others,  assemble a legal team and challenge the law.  Pro lifers  can do  that. They can raise the money  to retain attorneys to challenge it.  So, why haven't they?

Posted 2009-02-02T05:55:56Z
 
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Good idea, cheaper than dropping bombs on people to get rid of them a little later down the pike when it turns out their birth wasn't convenient. The world is over populated take a look around.

Thanks

Posted 2009-02-02T19:56:31Z
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Laurie, what you are saying is disingenuous at best!  Of course it's about abortion, how can you say it's not?  This isn't about the Republicans or Pro-Life groups trying to get people riled up, it's about the fact being, our tax dollars will now support abortion, both information and services overseas.  We as a nation do not have a right to spread this evil to other lands.  You think I'm wrong, go to a Muslim moderate nation such as Saudi Arabia and just try teaching women about abortion there.  See just how far you get.

You are right about this being a moral issue.  Just as every other law that protects an individual from another is a moral issue.  Murder is a moral issue.  Stealing is a moral issue.  Assault and Battery are moral issues!  To say that the taking of life is moral, or a choice is wrong.  We don't allow it out of the womb, why should it be allowed in?  How can we continue to ignore the plight of the most vulnerable?

Of course there are rules in the law about education, but, that's not what's being challenged here, is it?  There is a majority opinion in the US that our tax dollars should not be spent on abortions or abortion services.  This isn't new or news, and didn't suddenly happen, it's been the public opinion for some time.  Unfortunately, when we have a Democrat as the President since Pres. Regan signed the "Mexico City Accord" they have always signed an executive order to reverse it.  And since Pres. Regan that's been two!  Pres.'s Clinton and Obama are the only two that have reversed this decision, or to be accurate executive order.  I really don't believe either were elected for their pro-abortion views, but rather people were tired of Republicans at the time.  And if you look really hard, Pres. Obama did not win by a overwhelming majority of the popular vote, as it was only a 6% majority that voted for him.

Pro-Life and other groups do retain lawyers to challenge pro-abortion laws.  It's not new, nor rare, and it's been happening since 1973.  Again, to suggest otherwise is disingenuous.

T

Posted 2009-02-03T00:37:15Z
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Since Roe v Wade in 1973, we have had 26 years of Republican presidents, only 12 years of dems. The Republicans have done nothing. They grab onto it during campaigns and then it dies, never to surface until the next campaign.  I never wanted my tax dollars to fund the Iraq war. I was opposed when the media and everyone was on the band wagon.  But my tax dollars are not labeled.

 I was a Reagan and Bush 41 Republican. I have been Independent out of protest since a year after Bush 43 got going. I vote candidate and not party anyway, but  since 2001 I have been furious with what the Republicans have done.  I do not recognize them as they once were.  I cannot abide the pomposity of the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly. I was not even aware of them until 2001.  I think people have to be out of their minds to follow Coulter.  These people are not all holy and wonderful.  They are hate mongers.  They are extreme partisans.  I cringe when I hear them. They turn deep thinkers against the party and foster extreme partisanship.

But back to tax dollars and other countries.  Maybe you are not aware that there are South and Central American countries where there is a whole underground of little children who are unwanted and tossed into the streets as babies.  There is rampant STD, There is no education and these children grow up worse than Oliver under Fagan's tutalage.  They live in filth and vermin. Those who survive do not do so for long as they turn to crime as a way of survival.   This does not have to be.  In fact, in our own country which has the highest prison population in the world, our prisons are filled with neglected, unwanted children who grow up without direction because they were not wanted in the first place.  Now I do not like abortion.  Never have. Never will. But I am a firm believer in prevention.  I also am on the side of science which is contrary to the recent Republicans' as they pretty much oppose science on many levels.  In the 21st century, abortion is unnecessary. With good, thorough education, children would not be born that are unwanted.  That is far better than abortion, far better than children thrown into the streets to inevitably be killed or die of disease, or grow up to become criminals, drug dealers, all the perils of the unwanted. 

I know this should not be in this bill. There was not supposed to be any pork, per President Obama.  Congress just cannot seem to help themselves.  I think the senate will dissect the bill and fix it.  There is no guarentee it will work, but at least they will give it more thought than was given to the first one.  It will be made very transparent. It can be found on the web now.  

In case you are upset Obama won, may I point out he had a very large Electoral College vote.  I also remind you that Bush in 2000 did not win a clear majority and gained office through the Supreme Court in an unprecedented decision. So much for majority arguments.   I was one of those who did not vote for him then. Or later.  Or ever.   I am an old lady American and love my country every bit as much as the holier than thou folks who have yet to DO anything about Roe v Wade.  It needs to be challenged in court.  When is that going to happen?

 

Posted 2009-02-03T01:59:20Z
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