Again your facts are correct. I replied to someone about odds today and my message to them was the same as what you are saying.
I feel that I need to take issue with you about your anecdotal reports. The male that ejaculated just outside" may have been inside previously. And sperm are released before orgasm occurs.
I don't want to create any kind of war here. You obviously have a good following. I feel that this is a site, that not only where we can offer our experiences and knowledge to others, but we can get to know each other and grow thru the experience.
JayR