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Why do people hate other's opinions?

Why do some people hate it when other people think differently?


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"But now I wonder, what is the goal of the struggle? If they are not protecting their ignorance/insecurities/worldview, what do they gain, and how do you determine success? Is it just the last voice left talking wins?"--

Well I suppose in limited instances there is a genuine denial of exploring new ideas or alternative persepectives.  However, I still stick to my original view about arguments and heated debates.

"But now I wonder, what is the goal of the struggle?"-- I'd answer that the goal is simply to elevate your own self into a position of authority.  Whether or not your view is closer to the truth is irrelevant in most cases.

"what do they gain" -- I'd answer momentary fulfillment.

"and how do you determine success?" -- I'd answer if the participant can walk away feeling that his/her perspective and/or character has been defended and feels they've done a satisfactory job of doing so, then comes feelings of success.

In my honest opinion, heated debate and argument are good for people, especially people who are exploring new ideas and perspectives.  Our characters will always shine in our discussions, however, it's when we explore with others our own ideas and values that we push the boundries further of our understanding.  We allow ourselves more opportunities to conceptualize and articulate what we're trying to communicate.  The real unfortunates come from those who choose simply not to participate in discussion and debate and simply feel what they understand is good enough.

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How can one learn the truth by thinking? As one learns to see a face better if one draws it.

-Ludwig Wittgenstein

That's a good question, profitbob. To really hate someone else's opinion, I think a person has to fear what that opinion means to his conception of the world. The real fanatic takes it a bit further; he makes his own personal jihad on conflicting opinions and the people who hold them.

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Be Blessed.

Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity (Love), I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vauneth not itself, is not puffed up, Doth not behave itself unseemly, seekth not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in truth; Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. Charity never faileth.

And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is (Love) charity.  

Two thumbs up Dweller!!

Posted 2009-02-20T07:50:07Z
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If it's not fun, you're doing it wrong.

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Professor Snotsengabber, a charter member of S.N.O.T.S.

dweller, you may be on to something there.  Fear is a great motivation, along with pain.  The truth hurts, as they say.  If the person dispensing information/reality brings fear and pain by dispelling someone's illusions, that could be a reason to hate them.

But that still doesn't touch on most of the cases.  Even when reality is not in the balance, just some moot point, like the use of the nickname "Nigger Jim" in the book Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain, people seem to get fired up and want to start burning books.  People still aren't over hating Darwin for writing "The Origin of Species", and he was a 19th century scientist.

And these are two 19th century authors we are talking about that have people fired up to this day.  I find it hard to believe that these old books with even older ideas can cause the outbreaks of rage they do, especially considering how out-of-date or obsolete they have become in the 21st century.

Fear and pain are good reasons.  But they don't cover it all.  Or is it my perspective.  I love knowledge, but I am always ready to throw away old knowledge when something new comes along that makes more sense, or seems truer.  Is there some pain involved in throwing away old knowledge that I don't feel?  Does it hurt when the shackles of ignorance are removed?  I have always felt a little freer, myself.

Many people remark that the more you learn, the more you realize you don't know.  Is this paradox what drives the censors' fear, do you suppose?  Everytime they learn something new, or are exposed to new ideas, it opens up their world too much, and shows them how little they know, and how little control they have over the universe or life?

Posted 2009-02-20T09:12:45Z
 
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How can one learn the truth by thinking? As one learns to see a face better if one draws it.

-Ludwig Wittgenstein

Hi profitbob, LOL, well it looks like the censors are at it again. Hey, maybe I've graduated from newbie and finally have my very own stalker. It's really kind of a compliment if I can get under the skin of the ignorant so easily (and so inadvertently!) Nevermind. If I can help someone out with useful information, or save some old person from being ripped off by an unscrupulous contractor (like you mentioned in another post) then I'm satisfied and happy. The thanks from the questioners is the goal here to me, not some arbitrary and easily-manipulated thumb count.

There's a guy on YouTube (g0at) who made a video quite a while ago wherein he suggested that everybody walks around with a "bubble", a kind of sum total of that person's thoughts and experiences. People like you, who seek out new knowledge and always try to expand the context of their understanding, have big bubbles that are always growing. And then there's the tiny bubble people, who latch onto one idea and stand guard against anything that threatens it. Maybe they're afraid that if they let in a big idea, their bubble will pop!

 

 
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If it's not fun, you're doing it wrong.

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dweller, I like that bubble analogy. I got a chuckle from it. It is always great when a philosophy has a punch-line. If you know the title of the video you might post it to me sometime. I will watch it when I have time.

Posted 2009-02-21T09:21:26Z
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Smile  If it's funny, laugh. If it isn't funny, laugh anyway!  Smile

Good morning Bob....You made mention of my thumbs yesterday...Well I have had the good fortune to be on Yedda quite a few times when AOL has posed questions, and have been first or within the first 8 to answer. Those are the ones that most people coming from the article, on aol news see first. I have had qutie a few number one answers for no other reason than it was a conservative answer...Have a great day my friend and I am really sorry about all the trouble on Yedda, I hope it has ended..... Respestfully, George~

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In my experience, those who get into heated debates or arguments are not exploring the horizons of truth, denying truth, or protecting their inscurities; but rather, are participating in a power stuggle using that medium of communication as their vessel.  Where you perceive contention is largely due to your own character, not your belief system.  Or so I think.

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If it's not fun, you're doing it wrong.

FREE !!!  Help the U.N. feed people by playing a free game at freerice.com    It's free, fun and educational.

Professor Snotsengabber, a charter member of S.N.O.T.S.

Awoken, that is an interesting idea, a power struggle. I can see that, given that the original question is almost always buried and never gets resolved, just forgotten in the heat of the struggle. But now I wonder, what is the goal of the struggle? If they are not protecting their ignorance/insecurities/worldview, what do they gain, and how do you determine success? Is it just the last voice left talking wins?

Posted 2009-02-21T22:48:31Z

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