I dont really know. I know there is no point getting it on contract from either france or germany for obvious reasons. I have seen it on the sfr.fr site and i think the vodafone germany site. if you search these in google and then use their translate button you can view the pages in english. These may post to the UK if you can buy it sim free. Why not try orange france/germany too. The only other way would be to buy it off ebay france/germany and pay the postage.