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My father used to do this to us all the time when I and my brothers would fight.  We had to get out of the car and walk home.  I see nothing wrong with that.  We as parents have had our right to discipline our children, taken away from us.  This is why kids today are so horrible.  Rotten rotten rotten are the kids of today.  I applaud what she did.


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Conservation: Paying more and getting less.

I agree 100%.

Posted 2009-04-22T14:57:56Z
 
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Turn off the television and teach your children how to think.

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Her mistake was in getting caught and perhaps in driving too far off. Sounds like her 10 year old is kind of babyish. How come the 12 year old caught up but the 10 year old didn't?

I always taught my kids what to do in an emergency situation (how to get home, call for help and so on). Seems to me the biggest problem she faces now (after government stops supervising her) is teaching her kids to think!

Posted 2009-04-22T16:35:57Z
 
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Benjamin Franklin

When I grew up, the world was a much safer place than it is today.

I am sure you would never want to punish your child in a way that exposes them to predators and that unfortunately is what parents do when they use this type of punishment in most parts of our country, not just in the inner city but in the suburbs and rural areas, too.

In my town, a child on a bicycle in front of her apartment was struck by a drunk driver speeding through the complex and some people commented that it was her parents' fault for not supervising her despite the fact that other adults were out watching her.  I think they are crazy but the awful truth is that  in most places today, it is completely unsafe for children to be left alone by their parents. No responsible parent would do something like throwing their kids out of the car.

Posted 2009-04-24T14:16:51Z
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Strain the gnat and swallow the camel.  typical of today's society.

No!!  I wouldn't like it if someone bad picked them up....but part of the reason why there are bad people like that in the world today is "NO DISCIPLINE".  No one, whether it be kids or adults gets punished for their wrong doing.  So, different than days of old, we have raised a population of bad ROTTEN kids.  Why?  NO DISCIPLINE!!!  YOu know what they did to bad kids in Bible times?  Stone them.  How about that for discipline?  And that was God's rule.  Not ours.  Stone a few kids and see if that doesn't take care of other kids, looking on, making the choice to be bad.  Those kids didn't want to stop fighting in the car?  Then GET OUT AND WALK HOME!!!  they don't like living under rules at home?  Then find someone else to live with.  Maybe now, since they've made a big stink out of this incident, they will get that chance.  PS 3 miles is NOT that far away to walk home.  I live 3 miles from the lake I live near.  I walk it all the time.  Takes me about an hr. at a leisurely pace.  Those 2 kids were old enough to walk it and old enough to run to someones house if bothered by someone on the street.  They're not 4, and 5.

 

Posted 2009-04-24T17:14:11Z
 
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Turn off the television and teach your children how to think.

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I also think that perhaps the mom habitually gives 'Orders' without following through, as so many parents do nowadays.

So, if her kids are used to her saying, 'Stop that, or...' only the 'or' never happens; then of course they are not going to be aware of the fact that she's reached her breaking point this time.

That is why it's so important to say what you mean and mean what you say!

If she had been the type of parent who consistently followed through, the girls damn well would have stopped fighting because they would have known that they would have ended up on the street - just as they ultimately did!

Posted 2009-04-24T17:19:34Z
 
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Conservation: Paying more and getting less.

 The law has taken the tools of discipline (the paddle and the belt) away from the parents. I know someone whose kids threaten to cry child abuse anytime they don't get their way. The Dr. Spock disciples are going to rue their stupid ideas about raising children. Spare the rod, spoil the child.

Posted 2009-04-24T20:30:12Z
 
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Benjamin Franklin

I hope you are using irony to make your point, Cheryl,  although there are people who quote the passage you mention to advocate for the execution of rebellious teens.

The passage you refer to from Deuteronomy says:  "If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear."


Obviously a son who is a glutton and drunkard is not 10 or 12 years old. But

I think anyone who believes in taking this literally would be far more comfortable living someplace like Iran, not in a nation founded on the separation of church and state.

Posted 2009-04-25T00:31:17Z
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I am certainly not advocating stoning our children in this day and age.  And I would hope that a "mature" adult reading this would know that.  But, it certainly shows how serious and important it was, at one time, to listen to and heed adult supervision.  And, although you are right, that it wasn't 10 and 12 yr. olds that were rebellious when that scripture was written.....  the young ones spoken about in that scripture I mentioned were young enough to still be under their parents supervision.  They were not independent adults.  The point I thought I had made clear was children today do not mind and have no fear of authority.  And it's only to their detriment.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to view the world and see we are living in a violent world with no one respecting authority and our youth being a big part of that violence and disrespect.  Ask some grammer school teachers and high school teachers what they think of their job and how they're treated in school.  Then ask them how much cooperation they get from the parents.

And....it was almost laughable to read we have seperation of church and state here.  Take an historic look at all the wars we've had in the world and who caused them.  In particular the USA!!!!!

Posted 2009-04-25T01:35:09Z

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