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What is so bad about Socialism? From what I read it is so that the people's voices are heard, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm totally against Obama. But I do not see anything wrong with it. Socialism in America is alive, well, and growing. Aided by such influential Congressmen as John Conyers, Ranking Member of the House Judicial Committee, David Bonior, the pit-bull-dog who successfully whipped Newt, Maxine Waters, the President's outspoken defender in the impeachment debates, and nearly 60 other Representatives, socialism is advancing in America behind the "Progressive" label. Here are a few excerpts taken directly from the web page of the Democratic Socialists of America. (Italicized emphasis provided) . . . Congressional Members of theProgressive Caucus (sorted by state) Rep Earl Hilliard (AL-07)Rep Eni Faleomavaega (AS-AL)Rep Ed Pastor (AZ-02)Rep Lynn C Woolsey (CA-06)Rep George Miller (CA-07)Rep Nancy Pelosi (CA-08)Rep Fortney "Pete" Stark (CA-13)Rep Henry A. Waxman (CA-29)Rep Xavier Becerra (CA-30)Rep Julian C. Dixon (CA-32)Rep Esteban Edward Torres (CA-34)Rep Maxine Waters (CA-35)Rep George E. Brown (CA-42)Rep Bob Filner (CA-50)Rep Diane DeGette (CO-01)Rep Eleanor Holmes Norton (DC-AL)Rep Corrine Brown (FL-03)Rep Carrie P. Meek (FL-17)Rep Alcee L. Hastings (FL-23)Rep Cynthia A. McKinney (GA-04)Rep John Lewis (GA-05)Rep Neil Abercrombie (HI-01)Rep Patsy Mink (HI-02)Rep Jesse Jackson (IL-02)Rep Luis Gutierrez (IL-04)Rep Danny Davis (IL-07)Rep Lane Evans (IL-17)Rep Julia Carson (IN-10)Rep John Olver (MA-01)Rep Jim McGovern (MA-03)Rep Barney Frank (MA-04)Rep John Tierney (MA-06)Rep David Bonior (MI-10)Rep Lynn N. Rivers (MI-13)Rep John Conyers (MI-14)Rep Bennie G. Thompson (MS-02)Rep Melvin L. Watt (NC-12)Rep Donald Payne (NJ-10)Rep Jerrold Nadler (NY-08)Rep Major Owens (NY-11)Rep Nydia M. Velazquez (NY-12)Rep Charles Rangel (NY-15)Rep Maurice Hinchey (NY-26)Rep John LaFalce (NY-29)Rep Marcy Kaptur (OH-09)Rep Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)Rep Louis Stokes (OH-11)Rep Sherrod Brown (OH-13)Rep Elizabeth Furse (OR-01)Rep Peter A. DeFazio (OR-04)Rep Chaka Fattah (PA-02)Rep William Coyne (PA-14)Rep Carlos A. Romero-Barcelo (PR-AL)Rep Robert C. Scott (VA-03)Rep Bernard Sanders (VT-AL)Rep James A. McDermott (WA-07) AL = At Large
"The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) is the largest socialist organization in the United States, and the principal U.S. affiliate of the Socialist International. DSA's members are building progressive movements for social change while establishing an openly socialist presence in American communities and politics. "At the root of our socialism is a profound commitment to democracy, as means and end. We are activists committed not only to extending political democracy but to demanding democratic empowerment in the economy, in gender relations, and in culture. Democracy is not simply one of our political values but our means of restructuring society. Our vision is of a society in which people have a real voice in the choices and relationships that affect the entirety of our lives. We call this vision democratic socialism - a vision of a more free, democratic and humane society. We are socialists because we reject an international economic order sustained by private profit, alienated labor, race and gender discrimination, environmental destruction, and brutality and violence in defense of the status quo. We are socialists because we share a vision of a humane international social order based both on democratic planning and market mechanisms to achieve equitable distribution of resources, meaningful work, a healthy environment, sustainable growth, gender and racial equality, and non-oppressive relationships."
"The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) is the largest socialist organization in the United States, and the principal U.S. affiliate of the Socialist International. DSA's members are building progressive movements for social change while establishing an openly socialist presence in American communities and politics.
"At the root of our socialism is a profound commitment to democracy, as means and end. We are activists committed not only to extending political democracy but to demanding democratic empowerment in the economy, in gender relations, and in culture. Democracy is not simply one of our political values but our means of restructuring society. Our vision is of a society in which people have a real voice in the choices and relationships that affect the entirety of our lives. We call this vision democratic socialism - a vision of a more free, democratic and humane society.
We are socialists because we reject an international economic order sustained by private profit, alienated labor, race and gender discrimination, environmental destruction, and brutality and violence in defense of the status quo.
We are socialists because we share a vision of a humane international social order based both on democratic planning and market mechanisms to achieve equitable distribution of resources, meaningful work, a healthy environment, sustainable growth, gender and racial equality, and non-oppressive relationships."
Here is what "Liberty" looks like to a socialist . . .
"A democratic commitment to a vibrant pluralist life assumes the need for a democratic, responsive, and representative government to regulate the market, protect the environment, and ensure a basic level of equality and equity for each citizen. In the 21st century, such regulation will increasingly occur through international, multilateral action. But while a democratic state can protect individuals from domination by inordinately powerful, undemocratic transnational corporations, people develop the social bonds that render life meaningful only through cooperative, voluntary relationships. Promoting such bonds is the responsibility of socialists and the government alike. "The social welfare programs of government have been for the most part positive, if partial, responses to the genuine social needs of the great majority of Americans. The dismantling of such programs by conservative and corporate elites in the absence of any alternatives will be disastrous. Abandoning schools, health care, and housing, for example, to the control of an unregulated free market magnifies the existing harsh realities of inequality and injustice."
"A democratic commitment to a vibrant pluralist life assumes the need for a democratic, responsive, and representative government to regulate the market, protect the environment, and ensure a basic level of equality and equity for each citizen. In the 21st century, such regulation will increasingly occur through international, multilateral action. But while a democratic state can protect individuals from domination by inordinately powerful, undemocratic transnational corporations, people develop the social bonds that render life meaningful only through cooperative, voluntary relationships. Promoting such bonds is the responsibility of socialists and the government alike.
"The social welfare programs of government have been for the most part positive, if partial, responses to the genuine social needs of the great majority of Americans. The dismantling of such programs by conservative and corporate elites in the absence of any alternatives will be disastrous. Abandoning schools, health care, and housing, for example, to the control of an unregulated free market magnifies the existing harsh realities of inequality and injustice."
The action agenda posted on the socialists' web site very closely parallels Agenda 21, and the recommendations of the President's Council on Sustainable Development. The web site boasts the creation of the "Progressive Caucus" in Congress, as well as the coalition that is working to promote the socialist agenda in Congress.
Progressive Coalition members supporting the socialist agenda
Americans for Democratic Action Campaign for America's Future Campaign for New Priorities Center for the Advancement of Public Policy Center of Concern Coalition on Human Needs Demilitarization for Democracy Development GAP 50 Years is Enough Network Friends of the Earth Fund for New Priorities in America Institute for Policy Studies Institute for Women's Policy Research International Labor Rights Fund National Jobs for All Coalition National Organization for Women National Priorities Project NETWORK: A National Catholic Social Justice Lobby Peace Action Preamble Center for Public Policy Public Citizen Stakeholders Alliance UNITE Unitarian Universalist Service Committee National Association of Public Hospitals National Council of Senior Citizens Long-Term Care Campaign Consumer's Union Center for Responsive Politics Latin American Working Group Public Campaign United for a Fair Economy Washington Chapter Alliance for Democracy Working Assets Women, Law and Development National Council of La Raza The Campaign for Health Security Leadership Conference on Civil Rights Friends Committee on National Legislation Center for Defense Information Council for a Livable World National Rainbow Coalition Urban League National Black Child Development Institute Citizens for Tax Justice U.S. Campaign to Ban Landmines Amnesty Intern
There is nothing wrong in socialism. It's just that the soviet bolshevism used that name to define their political system. But even if you read the early books of Lenin and Trotsky you'll see that they also had a different view over the socialism and even said that the Bolshevik Revolution is sort of a small progress while the soviets have to hold to what that revolution achieved until the real socialistic revolution comes.
I don't know much about the socialistic tradition of the USA but I have heard about the McCartism... Anyway I don't want to talk about things I don't understand much, that's why I'll just say that even the bolshevism was not a real socialism, a second world country what the Soviet Union used to be was made into a third world country because of the :democratic changes" they have made there.
All I can say is, yes, I agree with everything you said. I wish people weren't so scared that they can't open up their eyes.
Nothing, as long as it's voluntary. You can define a political philosophy by asking 3 questions: 1. does it favour the individual or the collective? 2. does it favour hierarchy (some groups have more rights than others) or equality? 3. does it favour democracy or authoritarianism? The Conservative answer (the philosophy that prevailed in Europe before the French Revolution) was collective/hierarchy/authoritarianism. Fascism and radical Islam give the same answer; they are the old world resurgent. Liberalism (the philosophy underpinning the American and French Revolutions, and now prevalent in the West) answers individual /equality/democracy. Socialism answers collective /equality/democracy (Communism replaces democracy with authority). So the only real difference with Liberalism is the change from emphasizing the individual to emphasizing the community. As long as one isn't forced to live that way, there's nothing wrong with doing so, or recommending that we do so. Israel provides the best model of socialism - the kibbutz - and also of how to allow people to choose whether to live that way or not. Those who wish to be socialists can join a kibbutz - no need for changes on a national scale every few years.
Laugh more: tears cloud one's vision.
Amber, the first people in America to recommend an early prototype of socialism wore funny white robes and lynched a black man in a forest outside Tuscumbia, Alabama. A few months later, they burned and broke a Cross, as a testament to their hatred of Christ.
Since you socialist yo-yos all agree with that, then there is nothing more to discuss.
Burn crosses on your OWN property, racists! And remember that Stalin was the greatest racist of them all, besides his buddy Hitler.
Nothing ever changes, does it? Racists always crowd around socialist supremacy and white supremacy.
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What's wrong with Socialism? Cuba has a Socialist type of Government. When Castro started his take over our CIA didn't investigate him and believe it or not we help Castro get into power, Castro probably received money for his revolution from the CIA sometime between 1956 and 1958 . Now at that time Dwight D. Eisenhower was our President.
If the United States goes to a Socialist type Government we could find ourselves under a Dictator . The Government could take your Homes, Bank Accounts and your business if you have one.
Now if you are one of those people who haven't a job and living on Welfare, you will go to work. Work on the Government own Hiways, Government Farms, in Government own plants and you won't have a Union to help you.
You wouldn't have freedom of speach, the Government would own the TV and Radio Stations.
Is that what you want?
"Nothing ever changes, does it? Racists always crowd around socialist supremacy and white supremacy".
KKK's claimed to be Christians. Yes they hung Black men from trees. A lot of them because they looked at white women, was this right? No. I was raised in the South and am old enough to remember this. Now you sound like you may be a Black person and sound bitter. I have seen a lot of Blacks that are more Racist the some whites. When the Blacks don't get their way they use the RACE CARD and if the Whites don't, they don't have a Race CARD, they are called Racist. The Blacks have a "BET" Black Entertainment Television, but if the Whites had a "WET" it would be racist. The Blacks have all Black Collages, the Whites don't if they did, they would be racist.
So give me a break.
Because of the historically settled fact that all leftists are racists, bitterlings, and are the surliest variety of sadistic lying rebels, then it is absolutely unmistakable why all leftist fanatics resort routinely to duploicity and fraud to act out their genocidal hate games.
They think it is an easy way to get on the communistgravy train andlive the life of sadistic luxury their idols, Ceaucescu and Escobeda lived -- in control of everyone as long as they had control of the Mediin Cocaine Cartel and the Russian Mafia.
That is why leftist liberals like Saddam Hussein and Pol Pot really do typify all leftists. That is why leftist liberals are all completely consumed with racist hate and that is why ALL leftist liberals (no exceptions to that settled fact) push drugs on YOUR little kids so that they can make money to spirit violent political criminals out of the nation on "The Rainbow Bridge."
Leftist liars will always deny the truth because that is how liars -- who are absolutely consumed with genocidal rage -- get sympathy.
Sympathy seeking leftsits all put apples in their socks and pound a few sympathy seeking bruises on themselves to get sympathy. Sympathy, sympathy, sympthy.
Leave the sympathy seeking to soap opera starlets and Fidel Castro. After all, do not sympathy seekers all start wars? Liberals like Mao Zedong and Timothy Leary set the full true value system of all leftist libeals and so it shall remain as long as leftists are liars.
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