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Does any sound thinking legal American trust this man, or what he says?


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   I don't trust this man at all.  I think he has an agenda that is not good for this country.Frown

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I watched his address to the congress and the nation. It was a great speech as far as delivery, content and making his "case". If you agreed with him before I'm sure you were inspired.

However, the plan that is working it's way through congress is not necessarily going to turn out to be O's idyllic dream. His promise to pay for all the added coverage by cutting waste in the system doesn't add up. Literally.

Incidentally, as far as I know it is the only time that a president was heckled during an address to congress.

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lincoln was heckled but in regards to trust that is the most under described word in the english language we as people hardly trust anyone truely the intentions are good but the outcome its just as debateable as abortion with the supreme court. i can go further with this though

 
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Obama is an excellent salesman, however he lacks the knowledge that experience brings. Obama is such a good salesman and is so likeable that he could sell a refrigerator to an Eskimo. He very good at giving robust motivational speechs, which is what got him elected, we're seeing the same thing all over again on health care. Like any good saleman he's good at telling you what he thinks you want to hear. Adolph Hitler was a good salesman as well when it came to the people of Germany, look where he led Germany. I'm not saying that Obama has the same evil intent as Hitler did, I'm just pointing out what good salesmanship can bring about, as it's been often said "all that glitters is not necessarily gold". The current health care program along with his stimulous funding will put this country so deeply in debt that it will take decades to recover, that is if we recover at all. In answering your original question: No, I don't trust Obama or any of his appointee's.

Below is what's caused the problem with our health care system and a way to correct the problem:

 

Obama's proposed government run (socialist) healthcare programs simply WILL NOT work, this HAS NOT worked in other countries, so why should the people of the United States believe it will work for them?

 

However, the following will make a major difference in the cost of health care. Please take note how Obama tends to skip over the subject of TORT REFORM when this is mentioned as one of the solutions to the cost of health care! Why? Because besides being our President he's also an attorney, that's why!

 

Health insurance costs started rising around 1976 when the legal profession here in the United States was allowed to start advertising. Attorneys will only file a CIVIL law suit against parties who have the ability to pay, or against those who have an insurance company that's most likely to settle out of court. Because of this the medical profession is a prime target for lawsuits, primarily because of the money to be gained by the legal profession from the medical facilities malpractice insurance company. After a law suit has been filed against a medical facility, the attorney for the plaintiff will seek an out of court settlement from the medical facilities malpractice insurance company. The malpractice insurance company has two options: (1) Settle out of court or: (2) Go to court and face the cost of a very expensive trial by jury. Why a trial by jury? As per the 7th Amendment of the US Constitution:

 

In Suits at Common Law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried to a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the Common Law”.

 

Due to the 7th Amendment, either party to a CIVIL law suit can request a trial by jury, the other party to the law suit has NO LEGAL right to object to a trial by jury, this is where the Medical profession gets had! Here's a hypothetical example: The dollar amount stated in the law suit could be for any amount of money above twenty dollars, the cost of a trial by jury could be in the area of perhaps $250,000. The plaintiffs attorney would then offer to settle out of court for perhaps $100,000, an amount far less than the cost of a trial by jury, the insurance company would most likely take the offer without the case going to trial because the out of court settlement offer is the least expensive of the two. If the insurance company agrees to a trial by jury and they win the case they're still out $250,000 in legal expenses. This is why as much as 50% of the medical facilities gross income is paid out for malpractice insurance, because of these out of court settlements! This added cost is then passed on to the public in the form of higher medical insurance premiums. On the other hand, if the case were tried by a judge (no trial by jury) the case would either be thrown out or a REASONABLE judgment entered.

 

A way to avoid this legalized EXTORSION and reduce the cost of medical coverage is to modify the 7th amendment to the US Constitution. The modification would state that BOTH the plaintiff(s) and the defendant(s) in a CIVIL law suit must consent to a trial by jury before a jury trial could take place, otherwise the case would tried by a judge. In most cases trial lawyers won't bother filing a law suit if the consent of the defendant and plaintiff was a requirement for a trial by jury because they wouldn't be able to use the threat of a trial by jury to obtain a QUICK out of court settlement. This example applies ONLY to CIVIL law suits and WOULD NOT be applicable in criminal cases. In criminal cases the defendant would still be entitled to a jury trial.

 

With the modification to the 7th amendment in place lawsuits across the nation would drop off drastically, especially when it comes to the medical profession. After the change to the 7th Amendment the cost of malpractice insurance will drop accordingly, thus GREATLY reducing the cost of health insurance to the public! The only real problem with getting this modification to the 7th amendment passed is a good percentage of our congressional leaders are attorneys (including President Barrack Obama) who will fight this change to the very end, because it would make it far more difficult for them to EXTORT the public once they leave office and resume their primary profession as attorneys. It's time for TORT REFORM by modifying the 7th amendment and chasing the FOX out of the hen house once and for all, and give the American public back affordable health coverage that they once had prior to 1976.

 

Please forward this message to everyone you know, including your congressional representatives.

 

Patrick

      

Posted 2009-09-13T13:51:57Z
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I hate to say this, but after hearing Republican Senators and Congressmen cause mass hysteria by telling the people that if this health care package is passed they will put the senior citizen on a list for extermination. These senators said this was a lie, until one of the TV stations asked to tape them and recorded them in the House and in their talks to their constituants that they would be place on a to die list. These Senators and congressmen should have been arrested for creating an air of hysteria that could have caused a senior citizen to have a heart attack. The citizens who believed these lies may have been considered by you to be 'sound thinking legal Americans. You may be one of the sound thinking legal Americans who we have not heard a peep out of about these same senators and congressmen selling our treasury notes that were in the Social Security Trust Fund (SSTF), begin using it to fight the war that was created on lies; using part of the SSTF money to run the country and blowing up the rest on none social security matters. I don't remember voting to let the federal government (use), TAKE the 14.7 trillion dollars they owed to the SSTF, start double taxing senior citizens at 85% on their Social Security benifits that they have already paid taxes on over the last 50+ work years and have to return to work to pay the taxes on their home, phone bill, gas bill, light bill, gasoline for the car, buy medicine, oh, I suppose I will need food also. Lets take a look at why these senators like to target these sound thinking, legal Americans; they can get them involved in issues that keep them from seeing the bigger picture. By keeping people confused and divided, not one is asking, "what happened to the 14.7 trillion the government barrowed from the SSTF, since I am married, when did what I have, stop being also my wife's?" What do they mean by if I die my wife can only get whichever social security check is the highest? I thought the law said in marriage what's mine is hers and what's hers is mine. Now the federal government if saying skrew your husband and your wife. Wake up sound thinking , legal Americans, you deserve the same type of Health care coverage that these senators and congressmen get for FREE that they don't want you to have. Even with Medicare I still need additional health insurance to keep these health care companies for taking my home to pay for medical services. I am not alone, there are millions just like me; and we are keeping a space for as many SOUND THINKING, LEGAL AMERICANS who don't really have a clue of what is really going on. I will just move your chair out of our way, so we seniors don't get injured by those who don't know they are are about to be harmed forever.

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