Well put Deano! The only people to support Obummer Health Care are too young & Ignorant of the "Facts" (due to a wiz poor Public Education) to know that the Government is Already Running 2 Health Care Programs, one for our Vetrans & one under Social Security!!! Guess what??? They are BOTH BANKRUPT thanks to the Donkeycrats (Bill Clinton) getting their hands on the Funds that were Seperate & a "Surplus (at the time)" promising to "Pay them Back with Interest" which NEVER HAPPENED!!!!!!!!!!! These young Obamites think they are so damned smart, but have never studied American History or they would KNOW THINGS LIKE THIS!!! Obummer has FAILED at EVERYTHING he has PASSED so far & they still want U to take their picture with the Jerk!!! Whenever U "Pin them Down" about something, they run & hide or "Change the Subject"!!! Obummer has NO INTEGRITY, HONESTY, INTELLIGENCE, only LIES, SMOKE & MIRRORS!!! His style of "Leadership" is to put Neighbor Against Neighbor so as to Divide & Conquor & these Youngsters have NO DISCERNMENT & are too Ignorant to be able to see beyond the next 30 minutes which is the Totality of their Attention Span (the length of a Video Game)!!!   John

Deano:    All 3 bills are available online. It takes only about a week to read them.
The initial impact will be on the elderly and the younger folks with incurable conditions.

These bills equal a death-sentence for these people.

Want to explain and support?

The "cost-reductions" begin by cutting Medicare/Medicaid which is almost everyone on SSI/SSI-Disability.
Then, the war-veterans will have to pay for their own care or use the "public option" and wait in line for too long, so they die, too.

Of course, the above are lies.

Bet this poster also is a birther, and a death panel believer. 

Why not tell your people in Congress that you don’t really agree!!!!!

"AMERICA WILL NEVER BE DESTROYED FROM T HE OUTSIDE. IF WE FALTER AND LOSE OUR FREEDOMS, IT WILL BE BECAUSE WE DESTROYED OURSELVES"

ABRAHAM  LINCOLN 

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Little gems from the Health Care Bill

Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 4:12:23 PM by CMS
• Page 16: States that if you have insurance at the time of the bill becoming law and change, you will be required to take a similar plan.. If that is not available, you will be required to take the gov option!
• Page 22: Mandates audits of all employers that self-insure!
• Page 29: Admission: your health care will be rationed!
• Page 30: A government committee will decide what treatments and benefits you get (and, unlike an insurer, there will be no appeals process)
• Page 42: The "Health Choices Commissioner" will decide health benefits for you. You will have no choice. None.
• Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free healthcare services.
• Page 58: Every person will be issued a National ID Healthcard.
• Page 59: The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.
• Page 65: Taxpayers will subsidize all union retiree and community organizer health plans (example: SEIU, UAW and ACORN)
• Page 72: All private healthcare plans must conform to government rules to participate in a Healthcare Exchange.
• Page 84: All private healthcare plans must participate in the Healthcare Exchange (i.e., total government control of private plans)
• Page 91: Government mandates linguistic infrastructure for services; translation: illegal aliens
• Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and Americorps to sign up individuals for Government-run Health Care plan.
• Page 102: Those eligible for Medicaid will be automatically enrolled: you have no choice in the matter.
• Page 124: No company c an sue the government for price-fixing. No "judicial review" is permitted against the government monopoly. Put simply, private insurers will be crushed.
• Page 127: The AMA sold doctors out: the government will set wages.
• Page 145: An employer MUST auto-enroll employees into the government-run public plan. No alternatives.
• Page 126: Employers MUST pay healthcare bills for part-time employees AND their families.
• Page 149: Any employer with a payroll of $400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays an 8% tax on payroll <>BR • Page 150: Any employer with a payroll of $250K-400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays a 2 to 6% tax on payroll
• Page 167: Any individual who doesnt' have acceptable healthcare (according to the government) will be taxed 2.5% of income.
• Page 170: Any NON-RESIDENT alien is exempt from individual taxes (Americans will pay for them).
• Page 195: Officers and employees of Government Healthcare Bureaucracy will have access to ALL American financial and personal records.
• Page 203: "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax.." Yes, it really says that.
• Page 239: Bill will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors and the poor most affected."
âA C¢ Page 241: Doctors: no matter what speciality you have, you'll all be paid the same (thanks, AMA!)
• Page 253: Government sets value of doctors' time, their professional judgment, etc.
• Page 265: Government mandates and controls productivity for private healthcare industries.
• Page 268: Government regulates rental and purchase of power-driven wheelchairs.
• Page 272: Cancer patients: welcome to the wonderful world of rationing!
• Page 280: Hospitals will be penalized for what the government deems preventable re-admissions.
• Page 298: Doctors: if you treat a patient during an initial admission that results in a readmission, you will be penalized by the government.
• Page 317: Doctors: you are now prohibited for owning and investing in healthcare companies!
• Page 318: Prohibition on hospital expansion. Hospitals cannot expand without government approval.
• Page 321: Hospital expansion hinges on "community" input: in other words, yet another payoff for ACORN.
• Page 335: Government mandates establishment of outcome-based measures: i.e., rationing.
• Page 341: Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage Plans, HMOs, etc.
• Page 354: Government will restrict enrollment of SPECIAL NEEDS individuals.
• Page 379: More bureaucracy: Telehealth Advisory Committee (healthcare by phone).
• Page 425: More bureaucracy: Advance Care Planning Consult: Senior Citizens, assisted suicide, euthanasia?
• Page 425: Government will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney, etc. Mandatory. Appears to lock in estate taxes ahead of time.
• Page 425: Goverment provides approved list of end-of-life resources, guiding you in death.
• Page 427: Government mandates program that orders end-of-life treatment; government dictates how your life ends.
• Page 429: Advance Care Planning Consult will be used to dictate treatment as patient's health deteriorates.. This can include an ORDER for end-of-life plans. An ORDER from the GOVERNMENT.
• Page 430: Government will decide what level of treatments you may have at end-of-life.
• Page 469: Community-based Home Medical Services: more payoffs for ACORN.
• Page 472: Payments to Community-based organizations: more payoffs for ACORN.
• Page 489: Government will cover marriage and family therapy. Government intervenes in your marriage.
• Page 494: Government will cover mental health services: defining, creating and rationing those services.

On page 425 it says in black and white that EVERYONE on Social Security, (will include all Senior Citizens and SSI people) will go to MANDATORY counseling every 5 years to learn and to choose from ways to end your suffering (and your life).  Health care will be denied based on age.  500 Billion will be cut from Seniors healthcare.   The only way for that to happen is to drastically cut health care, the oldest and the sickest will be cut first.   Paying for your own care will not be an option. 
Now, CALL YOUR PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON !!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! 2 Tell them to read page 425 if they don't read anything else.  Surely  some of them have parents.