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~ The Heart is the hub of all sacred places, go there and roam ~

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Well, since God created "gay" people also, plus there is no negativity in the Perfect Mind of God... it only stands to reason that either A) the bible has been distorted when it comes to the concept of God condemning anyone AND/OR ...B) people READING the bible are misinterpreting its meaning... which happens a lot actually. *(As when Jesus says ~ I AM the ONE and the Way ~ some people STILL assume Jesus was referencing his physical form of water and a few minerals instead of His ONE Christ Consciousness... which is Formless and ALL Pervasive. A simple misunderstanding with HUGE, and perhaps for some.. convenient repercussions ) It is important to consider that ANY True Scripure not only needs to be written by one who is FULLY seated in Christ/Pure Consciousness but also MUST be READ by someone who is themselves in that Self same State of Perfection. Not too many can claim that perspective. *( And if they DID have it..they wouldn't bother to claim it.) EVEN the one doing ANY translation must also be anchored in this supreme and RARE state. It is not something that can be approached using the intellect alone. The fact is, there is MUCH hidden meaning in such writings. Not "hidden" on purpose but by default .. ~ just as a blind man cannot see the sun rise even as it is right in front of them ~ MOST human "eyes" are still veiled by the impure ego. Of course to even SUGGEST to the impure ego that it is in fact STILL in IGNORANCE of The ONE Supreme TRUTH .. makes the ego angry and feel insulted. THAT's how you know you're dealing with the impure ego and NOT the Divine Mind. The veiling ego gets VERY defensive. Humility is NOT one of its strong points. So.. my suggestion to this fellow who's EGO feels "victimized" by this publisher... why not just stop reading the book if it does not ring true for you? Instead why not focus on accepting the Perfection within yourself instead of rejecting the perceived imperfection of others? Why waste your precious time arguing with those who have no real understanding? Instead, empower yourself and go WITHIN.. as Jesus, and other supremely rare Grace Bestowing BEings like him, have always suggested. No religion or group owns Jesus, owns God, owns Truth Absolute. THAT ONE is already WITHIN you.. just waiting for the right time to come forth and be RE-Cognized. The play of the mind is just a distraction. THE Supreme Truth is REVEALED from within. The function of GRACE is not to simply get one to some heaven but to REVEAL to the veiled mind its TRUE SELF, which is the SAME in ALL. This, and not physical death is the True Death those such as Jesus reference.. Death of the impure ego.... That moment when we merge FULLY into The Christ /Perfect Mind .. which doesn't give a hoot about sexual orientation. The point is that whatever we "do" .. or better put, THINK we are doing, in this dream of life, should be done from a place of LOVE, respect, and compassion for ALL involved. That is ALL that matters. So.. sue or do not sue.. from a place of LOVE . Truly... whether one wins such suits or loses them will NOT bring one any closer to Truth Absolute, which is really the WHOLE Point of one's existance. My suggestion is .. do not bother to get mired in the petty controversies of this mundane world since they just serve to create more and more delusion for the finite mind to feed on. Think on the Pure indwelling Divine ONE alone... where there is NO fault, NO imperfection, NO judgment..but only love ~ only LOVE ~ ~ ~ ONLY LOVE Peace, Faith

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Faith

 

 Believe it?   AAhh no,  what good is belief?   Belief is a function of the dualistic finite mind  and TRUTH Absolute can NEVER be known that way.  

  

Our problem here is one of miscommunication.  I am addressing the Non-Dual Perspective of The Divine ONE, whereas you are HEARING  from the dualistic perspective of the finite mind.  In other words.. we are speaking PAST one another.     The Non Dual Perspective.... which is God's own... can only be perceived by revelation, where one is allowed to move beyond the finite and very subjective mind of man and Transcend into The Divine Mind.  This is the ultimate gift of Grace and cannot be described in mundane/dualistic words.   One can only ALLUDE to the fact that there is MORE.. using "normal" language but that is all that dualistic language can do.   Even the "chosen scribes" cannot deliver the Transcendent MEANING of a valid scripture  if the reader is not yet fully awakened spiritually.  And God does that when God is ready.    Here's a clue though... if one THINKS they understand.. then they do not yet understand.  Why?  Because THINKING is an action of the intellect.  It belongs to the finite mind.. whereas Transcendent Revelation bypasses the mind and unites God's mind with our own awareness.  What we THINK we are dissolves and only God remains... Because God is ALL there ever truly was. 

 

  This is the ONE DEATH which those such as Jesus speak of... it is not a physical death but rather the death of the impure ego.. that which contracts the mind and keeps us in Judgment mode, WHICH makes us THINK we are imperfect, finite, and separate from God AND percieve IMPERFECTION IN "OTHERS"  where there is no "OTHER" at all.

 

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  The thougt   .... ugggggg.... sick ... sick .. sick   therefore belongs to the dualistic finite mind and so is in error... to say..it  is NOT The ULTIMATE Truth  because there can be no sickness perceived in the Perfect Mind of God.  Truly once one has entered within THAT Holy of the Holiest,  after one finally stops weeping  from Divine Joy, one REALIZES  that no Sin, no error, no guilt, no play of Righteous VS UNrighteous,   no oppositional force at all can actually exist  here.    And to God there is ONLY Here, ONLY Now, Only PERFECTION ...  EVERYWHERE!   Grace heals the finite dualistic mind of its illusion of "OTHER"  and we realize that God alone exists and has ALWAYS been the ONLY ONE.   It is Grace alone that awakens us from this dream of life.

 

  So that's how it is.  Its all about which perspective one is able to hold.  And it is GRACE, and not our minds which decides that.    What you THINK I am suggesting and what I am actually suggesting.. are two quite different things.        I can SUGGEST that there is MORE to the scribes words  than meets the "eye"  but that is all I can do.    In the meantime   you could do your self a favor  and consider.... The True God... (not to be confused with the finite judgmental God of our minds, .. which Jesus warns us of )  does not really give a flying fig about one's sexuality so why should you?    It is enough that we work on our selves ... and then, when the ultimate gift of Grace strikes.. one will be READY to Recognize THAT and HOLD onto THAT  which is freely given.  Grace is like a seed.   If it lands in a mind which is fertile and well weeded of negative thoughts ...   it will flourish.  But.. if it lands on a barren ground, hardened by judgmental thoughts it will just wither and die. If we're too busy worrying about someone elses perceived "sins"... one COULD miss a golden opportunity.  

My advice? Think on God alone.

 

PS.. The mind still in duality will never think the non-dual perspective is helpful... It's not designed to.   : )

 
Whirlwindflower (thinks this answer is Not Helpful)

You sound like you have been listening to Ophra Winfrey.........I listen to the Lord.

 
Faith

Actually I've been observing Oprah for a while now, and am delighted to see that she is actually begining to catch on to God's most amazing and Divine Play. Many people may LISTEN to Oprah.. but very few can actually HEAR her. She really is on the right track. As for listening to God... that is great, but understand that you are LISTENING through a filter.. the veiled dualistic mind. It is only when that veil is LIFTED by the supreme act of Grace.. that you will be able to not only be able to listen but to hear.. from God's own Perspective. This and not Heaven is Jesus' True Gift to humanity. The ego veiled mind WILL argue of course... because it does not yet know that it does not yet know. ~ Jesus spoke of those who THOUGHT they knew him...but did not KNOW him. The veiled finite mind, caught up in the dogma of dualistic reigion never likes to consider that MAYBE... just MAYBE ... Jesus was talking to THEM. He must have meant someone else right? Maybe Oprah? Hmmm. Be STILL and KNOW ~ that there is ONLY God ~ Only God. Grace alone AWAKENS the mind to this supreme Truth. Peace, Faith

 
Whirlwindflower (thinks this answer is Not Helpful)

Oh Faith I pray that you seek the Lord, he is the way and the light. God is above all our human ability to understand. Satan is telling you that we can all gain the same state as God. Can you not understand that. Satan is convincing mankind that we can all have that power. We cannot nor do we ever want to be equal to God or above God. That is Lucifer's downfall......thinking he was on the same level and greater than God. Lord help her......Ophra is evil and infilterating people with lies from the devil...........runnnnnnn from that.......cast it out in the name of Jesus.....

 
DYK

Whirlwindflower wrote:  Do you honestly think our Lord Jesus would lay with a man? ugggggggggggggg............sick .......sick..

......sick.

 

DLK writes:  Would he have lain with a woman?  Imagine it, please.

Did Jesus go through puberty?

Did he have wet dreams?

Was he cursed with erections in the mornings?

Did he covet?  Did he appreciate the curves of young ladies? 

Did he engage in sexual relief and was not blinded?

If really taking the entire form and aspects of a "man", all of the above would have occurred.  Did it occur?

 
DYK

Faith wrote: Only God. Grace alone AWAKENS the mind to this supreme Truth.

DYK writes:  What is GRACE?  What is the supreme TRUTH? 

If the answer is to go to the INNER personhood of ego and soul, describe the methodology of doing that. 

Are the ego and soul separate from the brain; or are they a part of the brain? 

If separate, where, then, resides an ego and a soul?

If not separate from the brain, how are they accommodated within the brain?

 
DYK

Faith wrote:   Our problem here is one of miscommunication.  I am addressing the Non-Dual Perspective of The Divine ONE, whereas you are HEARING  from the dualistic perspective of the finite mind.  In other words.. we are speaking PAST one another.     The Non Dual Perspective.... which is God's own... can only be perceived by revelation, where one is allowed to move beyond the finite and very subjective mind of man and Transcend into The Divine Mind. 

 

DYK writes:  When there are two warring gobbledygook presentations, zipping past the other is par for the course when people imagine they can go beyond "natural".  The only way, of course, to go beyond "natural" is by the imagination (or metaphor use) which goes nowhere REAL.

And cannot in any form, in any manner, guide one to any kind of "truth", since all of the destinations reside in the un-natural.  If any of the imagined assertions were true, they would, of course, then be natural.  It's a soft Catch 22.

 
Whirlwindflower (thinks this answer is Not Helpful)

Well, the mind is mortal, the spirit is immortal. People that truly know God communicate with him through the spirit. Our spirits know things that our mind will not perceive of until we are gathered back to our Father in heaven. My spirit knows between right and wrong, but God loved us enough to give us "free will" to choose between good and evil. However the devil also is immortal and since the beginning of man has tried to convince mankind that good is wrong and bad is good. If you are talking about your mind then your brain should tell you that God did not make man, animals, birds etc. to mate with the same sex. He made man and woman. It simply does not work.

 
Whirlwindflower (thinks this answer is Not Helpful)

Faith? Do you honestly believe all the stuff you wrote. Only the righteous are part of Jesus. The Holy Bible was not written by ordinary men. It was given given to his chosen scribes to show his word. God did not make homosexuals, they chose to be that. For God so loves the world........he gave them free will. To choose good or evil. Do you honestly think our Lord Jesus would lay with a man? ugggggggggggggg............sick .......sick........sick

 
DYK

Our problem here is one of miscommunication.  I am addressing the Non-Dual Perspective of The Divine ONE, whereas you are HEARING  from the dualistic perspective of the finite mind.  In other words.. we are speaking PAST one another.     The Non Dual Perspective.... which is God's own... can only be perceived by revelation, where one is allowed to move beyond the finite and very subjective mind of man and Transcend into The Divine Mind.  This is the ultimate gift of Grace and cannot be described in mundane/dualistic words.   One can only ALLUDE to the fact that there is MORE.. using "normal" language but that is all that dualistic language can do.   Even the "chosen scribes" cannot deliver the Transcendent MEANING of a valid scripture  if the reader is not yet fully awakened spiritually.  And God does that when God is ready.    Here's a clue though... if one THINKS they understand.. then they do not yet understand.  Why?  Because THINKING is an action of the intellect.  It belongs to the finite mind.. whereas Transcendent Revelation bypasses the mind and unites God's mind with our own awareness.  What we THINK we are dissolves and only God remains... Because God is ALL there ever truly was. 

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DidYouKnow writes:  My god, what a mess!  What are some "apt" adjectives to describe the scramble jumble of words desperate to, to, to....?????   Bottom line:  Meaningless.

 
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