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RE the success of AA Solomon does not know how to ...

RE the success of AA Solomon does not know how to read a basic graph. I strongly suggest you look at the original survey she cites before printing trash like this. This misrepresentation is a blatant lie. Let me give you the basics. The graph this comes from plots the distribution of people in attendance at AA meetings with less than one year of sobriety. The total of all months = 100%. The number of people in their 1st month of sobriety = 19% The number of people in their 12th month month = 5% You tell me how any competent researcher can misconstrue that as the equivalent of a 5% retention rate at 12 months? Even more to the point, the data comes from a survey - and that survery does not even attempt to record sobriety, it counts asses in chairs. Given that those first attending AA are storngly encouraged to attend as many meetings as possible, of course attendance is top loaded in the first few months. This is elementary school level math problems, and this supposed researcher can not even read a simple graph. FAIL!


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What comes around, goes around, full circle.  Love your neighbor as you love yourself.  It'll all fall into place.  This too shall pass.  I'm too Blessed to be stressed.

I am the Mother of an addict.  My son was addicted to heroin, oxycodone, uppers, downers and alcohol.  He did it ALL.   He attended AA meetings everyday for a year and he stayed clean for that year.  I am trying to remember what year that was.........2003.  He is now back in a rehab program and has been clean for now 10 months.  He seems to be different this time.........he seems to be able to "retain" what is being said to him and what he reads and he uses these practices daily.  I am still a "tish" guarded as I have been here before.  I cannot let up on my guard just because he is doing so well right now.  I must say that this time he was diagnosed with bipolar.  He is now on Lithium and it seems to work for him very nicely.  This time too he finally graduated High School and my son is now 39.  My son is now going to start college this August and he wants to be a drug counselor.  Who better?  He has been thru it ALL.  Still, I find myself "guarded".  I don't know when I will let my guard down, it will take sometime I am sure as I have been going thru this with my son going on 11 years now.  So...........you can say for right NOW in this time and place that my son is SOBER and CLEAN.  AA does help and is important in ones life no matter what the circumstances.  I have taken the "big book" and read it and gleened MUCH out of it.........so AA can be for anybody !!!!  I will agree with the last person however and state that the success rate with AA is low but that is because some of the meetings are boring and they need to liven up the meetings so the people WANT to come everyday.  Just a suggestion.

Posted 2009-06-28T14:23:30Z
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But how do you get accurate figures on the success rate?  AA's General Office does not keep such records, nor does anyone else that I know of.  (I've been a member for over 5 years.)  Doing a simple head count at meetings is a poor indicator.  How do you know a person may not attend one particular meeting; he/she may attend different meetings at different groups.  (A more accurate count would be the number of "desire chips" handed out at each meeting vs. the number of "sucess stories", as indicated at "birthday night", where each person receives a chip based on the number of years of sobriety they have.  To do this, one would have to attend birthday nights for a year, to measure the number of people with "succcess" stories.)

 

Posted 2009-06-30T21:22:25Z
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