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Woman and clothing and no rude answers or any type of answer that does not answer the question

 QUESTIONS: (1) Can Stacy accept the woman's final answer that the woman thinks Stacy is NOT higher than a size 8? And (2) How would you help Stacy get closure? GIVE AS MUCH DETAIL AS POSSIBLE

Stacy went to the thrift store and she had a blouse in her hand. Stacy walked away from the rack she was looking at. Then about five minutes later Stacy walked back to the rack. There was a woman looking at one side of the rack and Stacy was on the other. The woman only could see Stacy from the waist up.

KEEP IN MIND THIS PART OF THE CONVERSATION THEY COULD ONLY SEE ONE ANOTHER FROM THE WAIST UP.
Woman: "Are you a size 12?" (She said this so low so Stacy went over to ask her to repeat what she said and as she repeated it Stacy said
Stacy: "Why"
Woman: "Because there is a blouse here you might like"
Even thou she told Stacy, Stacy walked over and looked inside the tag and saw for herself it is a size 12. This got Stacy upset.

Stacy: "Why you think I am a size 12"
Woman: "I am very bad at sizes"
Stacy: "I am a size 7,8"
Woman: "You really are thin"
Stacy: "But by you saying I am a size 12 you are saying you do not think I am a single digit size"
Woman: "I am very bad at sizes. I am buying my granddaughter a blouse, she is a small. My granddaughter is tall and very thin
Stacy: "Why do you think I am size 12"
Woman: "I just saw a blouse that was really pretty."
Stacy: "But it sounds like you are saying that I cannot fit into single digit sizes which if it is so is insutling"
Woman: "I did not say you are a 12, I asked if you were. If I saw a blouse that said 4, or 10, or 2 I would have asked if you were that size. BUT AGAIN I REALLY CANNOT SEE WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE"

SO THAT IS WHEN STACY DECIDED TO STEP OUT FROM BEHIND THE RACK:SO THE WOMAN COULD SEE STACY FROM HEAD TO TOE
Stacy: "Ok now that you can see me what size do you think I am"
The woman looked Stacy up and down and said:
Woman: "You are very skinny - I say size 4, 6,8. Just by looking at you one can see you are very skinny and tall - you have very skinny legs and no middle at all I usually take a size 16, but when I was at Macys I was looking at a blouse and the 16 was too big, so the sales girl said to me try a 14 that was too big so I tried a 12 and I was surprised it fit"
Stacy: "But you think I am size 4,6,8"
Woman: Definitely, size 4,6,8, not higher, you are skinny"
AND THE WOMAN REASSURED STACY THAT STACY DOES NOT LOOK HIGHER THAN AN 8.

JUST TO EXPLAIN THE LAYOUT OF THE RACKS: There are two racks and this is how the racks are set up: The rack that the lady was looking at is long - kind of like the side borders of letterhead - so it kind of acted like the border for the round rack. Then the other rack is on the right side of the rack the woman was looking at, and this rack is round. The high side of the round rack was near the rack she was looking at, and then there is a lower rack.

However, when the lady first asked Stacy the question, Stacy was walking toward the round rack and not the border rack so wouldn't the lady be able to see Stacy because the lady looked up but Stacy was far but close to the woman. In other words, Stacy was not on top of the woman, but Stacy was not across the room..

Border rack looked like this: http://www.fotosearch.com/DGV096/75780317


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1) No, Stacy cannot accept the woman's final answer that she appears to be no more than a size 8. Stacy has a poor self image, so she thinks someone who wears a size 8 is fat and she is offended that someone would mistake her for a woman who wears anything bigger than a size 4.

2) Stacy will never get closure until she gets therapy to address her distorted self-image and discover the underlying problem which causes her to fixate on clothing size as a means of measuring her worth instead of ACTUALLY measuring up to something real.

3) You didn't ask, but here's my final suggestion: Please stop posting this same question over and over. It is obvious that you have some severe issues, but repeatedly looking for someone to agree with you is pointless. Furthermore, there is no 'question' involved in this post.

You went shopping, some poor woman mistakenly thought you wore a size larger than what you ordinarily wear - so what?

You proceeded to browbeat the woman into stating that you were not any larger than a size 8, so what (again)?

What is it you expect to happen now? Do you want people to jump in and say, "Oh my God! How rude! ANYONE can tell from your description of yourself, it's SO obvious ... you cannot POSSIBLY be anything larger than a size 4!  Or maybe a 6, on the days you ate a big lunch or have your period or something!"

Please, voterperson - knock off the multiple posts of the same darn 'question' and seek help for your problem. I am not trying to be mean, but you've got a bat loose in your belfry...

Posted 2009-06-09T18:32:29Z
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to Jkgrandma can you explain this further "You went shopping, some poor woman mistakenly thought you wore a size larger than what you ordinarily wear - so what? You proceeded to browbeat the woman into stating that you were not any larger than a size 8, so what (again)?"

This contradicts this part of your answer: "No, Stacy cannot accept the woman's final answer that she appears to be no more than a size 8"

Posted 2009-06-09T19:27:22Z
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In your original question, you posed the scenario as though YOU had gone shopping.

I believe you said you were at the thrift store when the woman on the other side of the rack asked if you wore size 12.

You became offended and stepped out so she could get a full view of your body, and then insisted that she give you an amended answer as to what size she thought you wore - even though she explained that she was lousy at estimating sizes and had merely intended to point out a blouse she thought you might like.

She then hastily agreed that you were very skinny, and certainly no larger than a size 8 - and yet you continue to post this same question, asking whether you can accept her final answer.

Ergo, the answer is clearly, 'No.'

You can NOT accept her final answer, or else you would have left the entire 'question' alone and let it die a natural death.

She presumed, you corrected. What else is there to discuss? There is no 'acceptance' necessary of anything the woman said. What 'acceptance' is needed is yours - to accept your body as it is, and sizes be damned.

There is also no 'closure' necessary, as (again) YOU are the only one who is belaboring the issue. No one cares what size you wear. Certainly, the man in your life doesn't care. If he loves you, he thinks you look hot no matter WHAT the number on the tag inside your clothes reads.

It could read 6, 16, or 26 - if he's hot for you, he'll see you as though you were 'America's Top Model' and nothing less. If there is anything less, it is all seen through YOUR eyes. I really think you need to love yourself a little more and the 'numbers' a little less.

You are NOT what you wear.

Posted 2009-06-09T19:40:31Z
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Can you explain this part: "She presumed, you corrected. What else is there to discuss"

And what about this: However, when the lady first asked Stacy the question, Stacy was walking toward the round rack and not the border rack so wouldn't the lady be able to see Stacy because the lady looked up but Stacy was far but close to the woman. In other words, Stacy was not on top of the woman, but Stacy was not across the room..

Posted 2009-06-09T20:18:49Z
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My comment, 'What else is there to discuss,' is again based upon the scenario as you originally described it.

According to your 'question,' you and she were placed so that she could not see your full body, nor you hers. She quietly asked if you wore a size 12 and it is at that point that you confronted her (looking inside the shirt to see the size label).

Therefore, she presumed (without seeing you) that you might be interested in the shirt she found (regardless of the number on its label).

You revealed yourself to her and insisted upon a reevaluation of your size until she backpedaled and explained that she has no idea of how to judge sizes and agreed that you are 'no bigger than a size 8.'

In other words, question asked; question answered. What's the point in continuing to discuss it any further?

It makes no difference WHERE Stacy was in the room. It makes no difference WHAT size the garment in question was. The ONLY thing that matters is that Stacy seems to have a negative view of anything which she considers to be a 'larger' size - especially if said size happens to be double digits.

Now, perhaps Stacy was once overweight and has worked very hard to lose her excess pounds and fears rebounding back to her original size. If so, her fear is understandable, but her attitude is not.

I reiterate, Stacy needs to let it go and move on. This is not an actual 'question' and there is no point in continuing to discuss it.

No closure is needed (or warranted) and Stacy needs to learn how to shop without taking offense at innocent remarks from perfect strangers and brooding about them until she succeeds in making everyone else as crazy as she is.

In my opinion, Stacy needs to learn that size is only a number. Stacy is fine just as she is. Isn't she? 

Posted 2009-06-09T23:08:01Z
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To JkKgrandma: what about this:

JUST TO EXPLAIN THE LAYOUT OF THE RACKS: There are two racks and this is how the racks are set up: The rack that the lady was looking at is long - kind of like the side borders of letterhead - so it kind of acted like the border for the round rack. Then the other rack is on the right side of the rack the woman was looking at, and this rack is round. The high side of the round rack was near the rack she was looking at, and then there is a lower rack.

However, when the lady first asked Stacy the question, Stacy was walking toward the round rack and not the border rack so wouldn't the lady be able to see Stacy because the lady looked up but Stacy was far but close to the woman. In other words, Stacy was not on top of the woman, but Stacy was not across the room..

Posted 2009-06-09T23:21:35Z
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I don't see what difference that makes.

A) The woman already explained that she is a very bad judge of sizes.

B) The woman may or may not have seen Stacy before she made the comment. However, you must keep in mind that even if STACY believes the woman saw her (or could have seen her) before the 'Are you a size 12' comment was made; there are reasons why the woman may not have seen her or may have misinterpreted her size.

For one, perhaps the woman is extremely nearsighted but too vain to wear her glasses.

For another, perhaps the woman suffers from extreme astigmatism (which has the tendency to distort the size of objects seen without corrective lenses).

And finally, perhaps the woman is not very observant or was distracted with her own thoughts - so that even if Stacy believed the woman had seen her, it is entirely possible that the woman LOOKED, but did not SEE.

The bottom line remains as I originally stated. Stacy is making a lot of fuss over NOTHING and she needs to chill out.

If she can't shut up and let it go, then she needs intensive therapy. And that, my friend, is my final word on this subject.

Posted 2009-06-09T23:46:51Z
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Stacy is rude in my opinion...anyone above a single digit size is fat? Wow

Posted 2009-09-20T21:28:43Z
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