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Time For A Wuppin?

When taxpayers and conservative activists began holding tea parties to protest an out-of-control federal government's unsustainable growth, it was not entirely unreasonable to ask: Where were these people for the last eight years?

George W. Bush and the Republican-controlled Congress increased discretionary spending at twice the rate that prevailed under Bill Clinton. This dynamic duo produced a bloated transportation bill, an expensive energy bill, No Child Left Behind, Sarbanes-Oxley, and a witches' brew of legislation expanding the size and cost of the federal government. Federal outlays as a share of GDP increased from 18.4 percent to 20.9 percent.

In eight years, Washington went from running a $128 billion surplus to a $1.2 trillion deficit. Instead of recognizing that the major federal retirement programs were going broke, Bush and his supporters created a prescription drug benefit that increased Medicare's unfunded liabilities. It was the biggest new entitlement since the Great Society. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were pushed off budget to prevent the country's fiscal picture from looking even gloomier. Bush left office having rammed through a bipartisan $700 billion Wall Street bailout.

Barack Obama came into office and promptly made most of these problems worse, staying on the road to bankruptcy but pushing the accelerator all the way down to the floor. The silence of too many Republicans -- and even conservatives -- in the face of GOP fiscal irresponsibility complicated the case against Obama's gargantuan spending plans. "Until conservatives once again hold Republicans to the same standard they hold Democrats," Bruce Bartlett complained earlier this year, "they will have no credibility and deserve no respect."

Ask and ye shall receive. Conservatives in general and the Tea Party movement are increasingly directing their fire at Republicans who govern like Democrats. The strongest sign yet has been in New York's 23rd congressional district, where local Republicans nominated a liberal who supports card check and same-sex marriage but won't forthrightly disavow either tax increases or a health care bill that funds abortion.

Dede Scozzafava won't even commit to how long she'll support House Minority Leader John Boehner for speaker. Faced with persistent questions from John McCormack, a conservative young reporter from the Weekly Standard , aimed at discerning her predilection for pulling an Arlen Specter, Scozzafava called the cops . Her press secretary later released an e-mail exchange with McCormack they thought would vindicate their position, only to find that even Daily Kos agrees with the Standard on this dust-up.

This prompted a virtual stampede of conservative bloggers and activists to come forward and demand that Scozzafava drop out of the race. It has sent an even bigger flood of conservatives, both within and outside the district, to support Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman over Scozzafava. A Sienna College poll found that 23 percent of the district's likely voters now intend to cast their ballots for Hoffman, a 7-point jump in two weeks, compared to 29 percent for Scozzafava and 33 percent for Democrat Bill Owens.

Normally, the argument that voting for a third-party candidate on the right is morally equivalent to voting for a Democrat keeps many a disenchanted conservative in the GOP fold. There is a chance that the split between Hoffman and Scozzafava will lead to a Democrat representing New York's 23rd District for the first time since 1872. "GOP squabbling jeopardizes N.Y. Seat," crowed the headline writers at the Washington Post.

Yet this time many conservatives are asking: Do we not in effect get a legislator liberal enough to be a Democrat even if Scozzafava wins? Aren't their higher principles at stake in this election than (maybe) securing a vote for Boehner for speaker? If enough conservatives think these questions through, New York just might see a repeat of James Buckley's surprise 1970 victory over a Republican and a Democrat on the Conservative Party line.

Dick Armey traveled to New York to campaign for Hoffman and against the GOP nominee. As House majority leader, he occasionally voted for Bush policies that he personally opposed -- he has since named No Child Left Behind and the Iraq war as the two biggest examples -- but has since decided that sometimes party loyalty asks too much. "We've struggled with a Republican party ... that has lost its way," he said in the Empire State. "They don't remember about Reagan ... they don't remember about small government. They let their thinking be controlled by self-serving political objects. And frankly, they made a lot of fools out of themselves."

Republicans who voted for the bailout routinely find themselves booed when they try to speak at Tea Party events. The eight House Republicans who broke with their party and voted for a climate change bill including a costly cap-and-trade scheme, they were denounced by the grassroots as "cap and traitors." When the National Republican Senatorial Committee and other Washington GOP power brokers pull out all the stops for moderate primary candidates -- including two of the cap and traitors -- conservative activists pledge not to pull out their wallets.

One former Bush speechwriter claims that while reviewing the draft of a speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference, the president said, "Let me tell you something. I whupped Gary Bauer's ass in 2000. So take out all this movement stuff. There is no movement." Even if the story is apocryphal, it does do a good job of capturing much of the conservative movement's relationship with the Bush-era GOP.

Conservatives may finally be in the mood to return the favor by giving errant Republicans a whupping of their own.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. --Arthur Schopenhauer


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"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, Establish Justice,; insure domestic Tranquility, to provide for the common defense, to promote the general Welare, and to Secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and to our Posterity, do ordain and establish the Constitution of the United States of America.

I guess if I listened to Fox Noise --- "Lindberger," Beck, and most others on that channel --- those who created the tea parties, then I might believe them. But what they are preaching is not truth, but downright lies. Unless you can see that, Marinerecondad, I truly feel sorry for you and the extreme religious right that you represent. Michael Joel Held

Posted 2009-10-25T16:55:55Z
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Your direction,not your intentions,determines your destina

tions. 

There are a lot of people deserving of a wuppin but where to begin will start an other kind of war on here. Let's all ponder the things mentiond and breathe deeply while saying "I will not lose my temper"1,000 times. Now exhale, that should do it.We can't win in politics, i've said that many times before. But those wuppins sure did smart, especially if you had to pick the switch. I haven't forgotten them after all these years. It might be the wake up call that Washington needs.

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MarineReconDad
Please tell me what points Glenn Beck has been untrue on, and please be point specific?......
And Glennda Beck sure did love his healthcare coverage, paid for by Faux Fox.. but hey, if he suffered, you must suffer...

Posted 2009-10-25T22:25:56Z
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Hurt me once
 
Shame on you!
 
Hurt me twice
 
Shame on me!
 

"GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS"

 

"The Link Does Take A Few Seconds, But Worth It"

 
" This Was sent in by one of our Best Posters"
 
Good Morning, 
 
    We spent the weekend at McEntire Airforce Base near Sumpter South Carolina. It was most enlightening to have the time to actually talk to some of the young men in uniform. These young men are bright, dedicated, and very proficient at their job. We were both duly impressed.
I cannot say enough about these young defenders of America. 

    The one point I would like to make. When you mention the word OBAMA in the presence of these young Americans, be prepared for the harsh reality that their Commander In Chief is anything BUT that. There is no respect for Obama. At least none that we heard. Very sad. Yet, they will continue to support you and this country with all of their being, with all of their soul, and if necessary their lives. Amazing really. 

    When you view this video, and it only takes two minutes, just ask yourself two questions. 

    How did America get into this mess with the Left trying to destroy all that we believe in?
Second, How do we get out of this with our Country in tact? We still have three years of this maniacal madness. 

    One last thought. It seems that if this continues the only true recipients of all of this thought process, are going to be the people who are here Illegally. What the hell is wrong with that picture. Illegal is illegal is illegal! 

            Thank you T.     

 B
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Subject: CNN NOT FOX

 

Subj: CNN News, not Fox -- You will not believe this!

 

 It just keeps getting better.. This is unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

I KNEW this was going to happen.  (That way Obama wasn't lying when he said illegals would not be able to get medical coverage under his ObamaCare plan.  His simple fix is to make them all legal first.) 

 

EVERY ONE--PLEASE TAKE TIME TO LISTEN TO THIS--IT TELLS ABOUT THE BILL GOING THRU CONGRESS RIGHT NOW REGARDING IMMIGRATION. 

EVEN CNN IS GETTING UPSET  ABOUT THIS!!!!!!!!!!    
Pass this on after you watch it.   NOTICE THAT THIS IS FROM  CNN,  NOT FOX!!!  
Click on this link  !!!!!!


This  from CNN  news:   http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/17260182/1610997888/name/ftc-vi26.wmv
 If you don't get this the first   time click on it again, This is hard to believe
This  2-minute video should be mandatory viewing for  every US  citizen.  If  you have never passed anything on before, pass  this on!   Every  American should be  outraged!                           

 

      "Thank you for taking the time"

       "It takes a few min.but worth it"

 

 
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Hurt me once
 
Shame on you!
 
Hurt me twice
 
Shame on me!
 

"GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS"

 

 
"THIS IS A FOLLOW-UP E-MAIL FROM ONE OF THE BEST"
"PLEASE TAKE THE FEW MINUTES TO VIEW AND READ"
 
Friends,
 
I wrote to you this weekend about what I had read in the Copenhagen World Treaty on climate change that is going to occur in December. 
 
 
WE as a nation are hearing virtually NOTHING about what is about to transpire. With all my heart, all my convictions, I believe that this is one agenda item on Obama's list of many, that will give you the change that we all have so desperately craved. RIGHT!! 


If allowed to happen, this will Fundamentally change America as we know it.


Please take 4 minutes of your time and listen to this video. Then you judge. 


The question is, "What can we do to stop this madness???"


B.


Thanks James for the information.









Click here: YouTube - Is Obama Poised to Cede US Sovereignty?


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Mat. 6:33 "Seek Ye First the Kingdom of God and All these things Shall Be Added to You!!!

When will they Awaken??? Scripture says "They shall Believe the Lie" & has never been proven wrong yet!!! Sweet Gypsey that was a Great Post that should bring out even the Most Comatose Obummer Worshipers, but they will simply offer more "Our Father Obummer Prayers" & sing their Hymns to him with their kids at School. Well, they can sell their Own Souls, but mine's spoken for, sorry!   John

Posted 2009-10-29T00:24:25Z
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Wasn't Bush that successful Composer personality?

 
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A penny saved  is a penny earned

Marinerecondad,

Very good post and some good answers on your post, but it makes you wonder, what is this teaching our young men and women ?  And what respones's and thought do our service men and wome have that are fighting for our freedom in the united states of america.....To keep our land free and our flag flying everywhere showing our free land.  Is it really free anymore ?  Young people and children   They listen to grown-ups ( espically the ones that voted the first time) some that really didn't know what they were doing   It was just exciting to them to be of age to vote for the first time and get in on the excitement.  That's what ths election was,  like new years eve.  This isn't the same country that it was in grand'pa's day ..Or maybe their grandpa's.  It just gets a little worse every year and what can we do ?.  I hope that it all works out soon because of my great grandchildren and after that.  Alot of this started when they took prayer out of school.....How did that happen  ?  Just like alot of other sneaky things.  That was sad because some children only heard  prayer in school.

I will close with this..
.Everyone can say what they want about any president running the country and the one that has been the worse but i am like you,  my heart and soul belongs to  " our lord " who is running the world however it is.  You might lose your faith in who is running anything in the government,        but never lose faith in god or jesus.  It will come out ok in the end.
God bless
Nanadee

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