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Surge Protector Cut Off Switch

If I turn off the surge protector (the on off switch) and the light goes off, does this mean that electricity (and surges) can NOT hit my computer? In other words, does the on off switch just stop the electricity (which would be the 'intelligent' part of stopping surges) or does it stop all contact from the wall outlet to my computer?


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When you turn off the surge protector off that protects your computer from lighting. My son-in-law is an electrician. He told me this a while back

 
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Surge protectors should stay on to protect your computer from lightning and power surges.  I just looked at the instructions for mine.  In the case of an outage, my light stays on, and the protector beeps every so often. However, you should make sure that what you're using is actually a surge protector and not just a power strip.  I have power strips that operate the same way with on/off lights, and look like surge protectors, but they are NOT surge protectors. 

 

1)  I am sorry. But I can't parse out your sentence.

Could you reword it please?

when off off that protects? huh?

"When you turn off the surge protector off that protects your computer from lighting. My son-in-law is an electrician. He told me this a while back"

 

2) Yes, I realize they SHOULD stay on - that was NOT the question. The question is "does the surge protector, being turned off, still mean you are connected to the wall?" Maybe it helps to understand the process.

connected from the wall to the surge protector. power on or power off. connected to the computer. If the power is on, then definitely, surges are monitored and stopped. But turned off, are you still connected to from the wall to the computer? What if there is a lightening strike?

 

"Surge protectors should stay on"

Posted 2009-07-26T19:27:40Z
 
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Would'nt your computer be most protected if the surge protector was disconnected from the wall?

 
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I think we are all confused.  Unless you unplug the surge protector from the wall, it is connected.  If it is off, a lightning strike coming in to that plug would hit your computer. It you unplug it, the computer is safe, since it is no longer plugged in.

 
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If your intention is to protect you PC from lightning in the event of a severe lighting storm it would be a good idea to not only unplug your surge protector from the wall but also to unplug any other connections (cable, telephone) and any other thing that connects it to the house. Leaving it plugged in is noy a good idea. In the event of a direct lightning strike the current is going to go wherever it wants’ to go, current follows the path of least resistance to ground. It could jump through a surge protector that is just turned off. Honestly I don’t personally think that there is anything made that will protect anything that has a voltage of 10 to 120 million volts. So in the event of a severe storm you should unplug. But as for protection against common surges leave it plugged in an turned on.

Posted 2009-07-26T23:20:35Z
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I read the replies below. The ones that suggest unplugging the system from the building power during storms are good advice. A surge protector is what we normall see as what is called a Power Tap (a string of outlets on a single molded housing with one cord oing to the wall in which you can plug several electronic items like computers or TV etc. Many times they also have telephone jacks on them to protect your phones or modems.

Power taps mayalso be in the form of unit that might sit under you laptop or look like like a thin table top unit. But they all employ the same methods of protection. First remember - surge protection is not the same as lightning protection. If a multi million volt bolt of lighting hits directly to your system via phone or power lines - you can kiss it goodbye - no little on-off switch or MOV or choke coil is going to stop it. It will jump everything and head for the path of least resistance which Murhpy says willbe you best equipment - So ---- in severe lightning storms - dont kid yourself - unplug the stuff - end of story.

Surge supressors are intended to protect sensitive equipment from occasional surges - not lightning strikes. Surges occur constantly from what are called inductive kickbacks or in electronic terms Reverse EMF voltages. A refrigerator turns off or on - the motor starts - the lights in the house dim a litle from the surge required to start the motor - and when it starts a reverse EMF of as much as 1000 volts can kick back through your home wiring. Compressors, furnaces - even theneighbors equipment if it is on the same pole transformer - can throw surges into your home. storms a mile away can do it also. These surges are constant - every time a light is turned on (minor surges) to a large motor on a compressor (IE) will toss spikes into the wiringin your house. If oyu were to monitor your electrical lines with an Oscilloscope you would be hard pressed to find any 2 minute interval where a surge DOESN''T occur. They are everywhere.

The surge protector removes or "suppresses" these surges - that is if the voltage is 120 Volts AC to your system and a surge of (IE) 400 volts barrels down the line - the surge protector will catch it in nanoseconds and basically short it out - that is sync it to ground. Surges can occur between the hot neutral wires (black and white) the hot and ground (black and earth ground or green) or neutral and ground. Hence the surge protector need 3 components to protect a normal home wiring system. So one is placed across each of those three pairs effectively shunting surges across any of the pairs and only permitting 120Vmax to reach your computer.

The surge protector most commonly used is the MOV - or Metal Oxide Varistor. It is much like a thyristor or zener in that it will not operate at its rated voltage but if a voltage larger that it is designed to accept hits it - it goes into what's called the "avalanche" mode - that is - it instantly becomes a near short circuit - shunting for the one or two cycles of that surge and effectively passing it around thesystem. It will heat up of course but its such a short duty cycle that it doesnt normally overheat. These can take repetitive hits of surging and reset instantly. If you ever look inside the unit you will see these - they look normally like small round candies - red or black normall - with 2leads from them to each of the pairs needing protection. On a cheap protector like a $10 one from a hardware store - if you opened it - you would seejust 3 MOVs - right where the power cord enters but after the on-off switch. - Putting these at the head end of the power line - protects everything down stream. In fact I make these for mobile use. I take a larger power plug from a hardware store and wire these into it and seal it. If I am connecting to a power outlet somewher and want protection - I simply plug the MOV plug I made into one of the duplex outlets and the computer or other item into the other outlet - then it isprotected - assuming they are both on the same circuit.

More expensive protectors have more sophisticated protection - using separate MOVs on each outlet - and adding choke coils (wound coils that will "choke" the surge inductively. There are also very sophisticated ones that use complex circutiry that captures the surge and sets off alarms and such. But the MOV is the standards - is as fast as anything on the market. But

remember---- it cant stop a lightning strike -s o unplug in storms. There are ways to test the MOV but thats another story - in case you are concerned it isnt protecting. Best if you doubt is to just buy a new one if its cheap - otherwise have a qualified electronic technician - test yours. Its a simple matter of raising the voltage to each MOV and scoping its response to that higher voltage. Hope this helps.

 

 

 

 

 
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I read the replies below. The ones that suggest unplugging the system from the building power during storms are good advice. A surge protector is what we normall see as what is called a Power Tap (a string of outlets on a single molded housing with one cord oing to the wall in which you can plug several electronic items like computers or TV etc. Many times they also have telephone jacks on them to protect your phones or modems.

Power taps mayalso be in the form of unit that might sit under you laptop or look like like a thin table top unit. But they all employ the same methods of protection. First remember - surge protection is not the same as lightning protection. If a multi million volt bolt of lighting hits directly to your system via phone or power lines - you can kiss it goodbye - no little on-off switch or MOV or choke coil is going to stop it. It will jump everything and head for the path of least resistance which Murhpy says willbe you best equipment - So ---- in severe lightning storms - dont kid yourself - unplug the stuff - end of story.

Surge supressors are intended to protect sensitive equipment from occasional surges - not lightning strikes. Surges occur constantly from what are called inductive kickbacks or in electronic terms Reverse EMF voltages. A refrigerator turns off or on - the motor starts - the lights in the house dim a litle from the surge required to start the motor - and when it starts a reverse EMF of as much as 1000 volts can kick back through your home wiring. Compressors, furnaces - even theneighbors equipment if it is on the same pole transformer - can throw surges into your home. storms a mile away can do it also. These surges are constant - every time a light is turned on (minor surges) to a large motor on a compressor (IE) will toss spikes into the wiringin your house. If oyu were to monitor your electrical lines with an Oscilloscope you would be hard pressed to find any 2 minute interval where a surge DOESN''T occur. They are everywhere.

The surge protector removes or "suppresses" these surges - that is if the voltage is 120 Volts AC to your system and a surge of (IE) 400 volts barrels down the line - the surge protector will catch it in nanoseconds and basically short it out - that is sync it to ground. Surges can occur between the hot neutral wires (black and white) the hot and ground (black and earth ground or green) or neutral and ground. Hence the surge protector need 3 components to protect a normal home wiring system. So one is placed across each of those three pairs effectively shunting surges across any of the pairs and only permitting 120Vmax to reach your computer.

The surge protector most commonly used is the MOV - or Metal Oxide Varistor. It is much like a thyristor or zener in that it will not operate at its rated voltage but if a voltage larger that it is designed to accept hits it - it goes into what's called the "avalanche" mode - that is - it instantly becomes a near short circuit - shunting for the one or two cycles of that surge and effectively passing it around thesystem. It will heat up of course but its such a short duty cycle that it doesnt normally overheat. These can take repetitive hits of surging and reset instantly. If you ever look inside the unit you will see these - they look normally like small round candies - red or black normall - with 2leads from them to each of the pairs needing protection. On a cheap protector like a $10 one from a hardware store - if you opened it - you would seejust 3 MOVs - right where the power cord enters but after the on-off switch. - Putting these at the head end of the power line - protects everything down stream. In fact I make these for mobile use. I take a larger power plug from a hardware store and wire these into it and seal it. If I am connecting to a power outlet somewher and want protection - I simply plug the MOV plug I made into one of the duplex outlets and the computer or other item into the other outlet - then it isprotected - assuming they are both on the same circuit.

More expensive protectors have more sophisticated protection - using separate MOVs on each outlet - and adding choke coils (wound coils that will "choke" the surge inductively. There are also very sophisticated ones that use complex circutiry that captures the surge and sets off alarms and such. But the MOV is the standards - is as fast as anything on the market. But

remember---- it cant stop a lightning strike -s o unplug in storms. There are ways to test the MOV but thats another story - in case you are concerned it isnt protecting. Best if you doubt is to just buy a new one if its cheap - otherwise have a qualified electronic technician - test yours. Its a simple matter of raising the voltage to each MOV and scoping its response to that higher voltage. Hope this helps.

 

 

 

 

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