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How To Save Money In A Government Run Health Care Program?

Most of the health reform dreamers look to the UK as a model of what we should be doing. Great Britain is about a decade ahead of us in moving toward national health information technology, comparative effectiveness research, and pay-for-performance. The results of these experiments are not encouraging. Here are some recent headlines:

'Cruel and neglectful' care of one million NHS patients exposed: One million NHS patients have been the victims of appalling care in hospitals across Britain, according to a major report released today.

Women heart attack victims 'are dying needlessly'

Sentenced to death on the NHS: Patients with terminal illnesses are being made to die prematurely under an NHS scheme to help end their lives, leading doctors have warned.

You get the drift. But, by golly, they’ve got costs under control, eh?


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You will always find information to back up any view on the internet, The media today both in the UK and other countries is always on the look out for headlines rather than the truth

With our NHS we have for many years seen the problems in the media reporting problems with the health services in your country and undoubtedly others

Any form of maltreatment whether here or in any country should be challenged and we have many groups including doctors themselves who challenge any decision where patients have and will be mistreated

But the real proof of any health service is personal use of it, Of course you will find bad doctors and hospitals in any country

Here lists are published regularly of all hospitals performances and patients have the right to be treated in any hospital they wish, Indeed the NHS have often sent Patients who are willing to France for treatment to help keep the time patients have to wait for surgery

The fact is there will never be a perfect health service but it is comforting to know that if you are ill you dont have to worry about whether you can afford it or not

I'm sorry that Obama is trying to change your medical services and wish you good luck in fighting to keep the service you want

 

 

Posted 2009-09-12T20:38:56Z
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You will always find information to back up any view on the internet, The media today both in the UK and other countries is always on the look out for headlines rather than the truth

With our NHS we have for many years seen the problems in the media reporting problems with the health services in your country and undoubtedly others

Any form of maltreatment whether here or in any country should be challenged and we have many groups including doctors themselves who challenge any decision where patients have and will be mistreated

But the real proof of any health service is personal use of it, Of course you will find bad doctors and hospitals in any country

Here lists are published regularly of all hospitals performances and patients have the right to be treated in any hospital they wish, Indeed the NHS have often sent Patients who are willing to France for treatment to help keep the time patients have to wait for surgery

The fact is there will never be a perfect health service but it is comforting to know that if you are ill you dont have to worry about whether you can afford it or not

I'm sorry that Obama is trying to change your medical services and wish you good luck in fighting to keep the service you want

 

 

Posted 2009-09-12T20:40:40Z
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"Most people see things as they are, and ask, 'why'? But I think of things that never were, and ask, 'why not'?" -- George Bernard Shaw.

What you say is VERY scary! : ( However, although I don't know, even second-hand, about the British Health System, I DO know, (second-hand), about the similar(????) CANADIAN health system. I have relativee in Canada, and they are very satisifed with it. The way they explain it to me is this: everyone gets a Medicare card from the day they are born. If they really NEED help, (like my cousin, who discovered she had cancer in it's earliest stages), you get medical care IMMEDIATELY. If you want elective surgery, (like a plastic-surgery nosejob), you have to wait a l..o..n..g.. time. That sounds OK to me. Only........I'm afraid that "ObamaCare" may go even further than the Canadian system --and reach into pocketbooks and privacy, as well....... Several new bills, (not all of them dealing with healthcare), give the President ENORMOUS power to limit -- or eliminate -- freedom in America! The EXCELLENT DVD, "America, Freedom to Fascism", details it all in simple, but totally chilling detail. Buy, beg, or borrow a copy of this DVD! These things might happen in England or Canada too....but I suspect they will happen first -- and far more easily -- in the USA. Because people in the USA have become lazy in safe-guarding their liberty! Thomas Jefferson said: "Eternal Vigilance Is The Price of Liberty"(!) And Benjamin Franklin said: "Those who would exchange freedom for security will have neither!" (!!!!!!) Makes you wonder if those guys had access to time-machines....or if they were just super-super smart! People in other countries -- even other Western countries -- believe that the upper, and upper-upper classes are "better" than the "average" person. If someone from the "lower" classes wants to become ambitious and rise higher, fiancially and socially, he or she is often told, "You are getting above yourself, aren't you?" (This is especially true in still-class-ridden England.) Seems they never heard that "All men, (and women!) are created Equal." So, the upper classes there don't regard the lower classes as too much of a threat, as the lower classes have been "trained" since birth to respect their "betters". Therefore, NO "clamping down" -- medically or otherwise -- is really necessary in these countries, because the "clamping down" has already been done, stealthily, since birth! But in the USA, we ALL have been trained, since birth, TO believe that ALL MEN (AND WOMEN!) ARE CREATED EQUAL. The "lower classes" here, (ecomically lower, mostly), have all the ambition in the world -- and the richer, "upper classes" here are afraid of this! So, sadly, (and terrifyingly!), I fear that the Obama Administration WILL make things medically expensive -- both in monetary AND LIFE costs....because rich people in the USA do NOT want other, "ordinary" people to become rich too! OR to benefit medically, the way rich people do! There are "secret" organizations in the world WHO WANT TO PUT THE WORLD'S POPULATION AT 600,000. It will be more "manageable" that way. The world's population is now about 6 billion, if I am not mistaken. Curtailing medical care is a great way to do this! I would have expected more compassion from Barak Obama -- a member of a truly unfairly exploited minority. It seems that over-riding personal ambition, and a youth where his brilliance, (he graduated from Harvard Law School), over-rode a great deal of the prejudice suffered by his fellow Blacks. (Plus, he had a White mother.) I can only hope that he will see how wrong he has been, and exhibit a bit more compassion towards his FELLOW Americans without much money, (whatever their race) -- a turnaround I sadly do not expect, as, I suspect, he has been "given" the Nobel Peace Prize to ensure his "good behaviour" and obedience to the "secret societies". If Mr. Obama doesn't change his ways, and continues to "squeeze the, (fiscal and, too often, physical!), life out of" so many of his FELLOW Americans, we can always impeach him, (yes!), and put the, I think, far more compassionate Joe Biden into the Presidency. (Mr. Biden was one of the POOREST members of congress before becoming V.P. --check his biography in www.Wikipedia.org.) I've been reading a book, "The Curing Book", (at www.curingbook.com), which states that VITAMIN C CAN CURE ALL DISEASES! The book tells how much, and at what intervals Vitamin C should be given for each illness. (This can work for almost everyone --except those like my friend's son, who has an allergy to Vitamin C!) SO, I SUPPOSE THE BEST WAY TO SAVE MONEY IN HEALTH-CARE IS TO PUBLICIZE ALTERNATIVE AND/OR COMPLIMENTARY MEDICINE. But a plan of "secret societies" is at work, even here, to make things hard. CODEX wants to eliminate ALL sales of vitamins and supplements, exept in very tiny doses, or as prescribed by a doctor! They already have footholds in many countries, (including Canada!) -- and are always threatening to come to the USA, too! The website owned by DR ROBIN FALKOV, (www.healthfreedomrights.com), and a part of the website for energels "living water", (www.energels.com), tell the whole, sad story, and rcommend what "ordinary" Americans can do. (The CODEX link -- there called "Codex-Cafta", can be found, on the www.energels.com website, on the home page in the lower left hand corner. Look for it, and click on it!) Well, this has gone on much too long -- so I'll stop now. Hope this answer -- somewhat off-topic, and very lengthly -- helped somewhat, nonetheless!

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