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Partial answer from Rockmike3 regarding Carl Sagan

Rockmike3, you answered a question about Carl Sagan and a portion of your answer showed up in my mail.  When I try to read the whole answer I get the oops page.  I have asked Neta why and now I am asking you. Do you know why your whole answer does not show up as posted?


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The lowest servant in Heaven is still in Heaven.

Whoever rules in hell is still in hell, but they won't rule for long.

My experience with the late Dr. Sagan is probably best left dead, with him.  I will say that he delayed my entry into my scientific career by thirty years, that he persecuted others who did not hold with his atheist views, and even the best scientific proof went over his head if it did not please his insufferable ego.

The public side of Dr. Sagan would attract people.

The actual man made rational people want to exclude him from their circle of friends.

Posted 2009-11-01T22:16:03Z
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Thanks for your views on the matter it is always good to hear another side of the story, If you do not wish to say anymore then I thank you for your time Rockmike, I really didn't  exspect to hear from anyone who met Mr.Sagan himself even if it was a negative experience, I'm amazed I was so lucky. Smile

Posted 2009-11-02T04:24:03Z
 
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The lowest servant in Heaven is still in Heaven.

Whoever rules in hell is still in hell, but they won't rule for long.

My problems with the late great Dr. Sagan were not so much personal as ideologicalDr. Sagan had established his reputation as an atheist long before he started college, so he was stuck with that crowd, that gave him most of his support, provided that he did not break ranks.  That dynamic still persists, and these people are so stubborn that even in the face of rigorous proof, they will deny it.

You can imagine his ire when my group proved Divine Creation rigorously and properly.  He was a Ph.D, while my group were all Freshmen.  He had seen our work before, assembled in 1921 and again in 1958, although it had been systematically repressed.  We didn't find that out until much later.  These papers were written by the finest minds of their day: Einstein and Watkins, respectively.  Neither was published because of the atheist doctrine of their days.

Fearing discredit and humiliation, Sagan and several of his atheist colleagues pulled every string that they could find, and without our knowledge or consent, we all found that our transcripts had been altered in such a way that none of us would get into physics anytime soon.

I instead went for Architecture, and later became a General Contractor.  Only once Dr. Sagan passed on could I once again apply to UW, Seattle and pursue nuclear physics.  That was a thirty year delay entering the profession of my choice, at a quarter of my projected earnings as a physicist.

I am not the only person Dr. Sagan irreparably harmed, fearing that he would have to retract much of his work that slyly advocated atheism.  No one has the right to commit religious persecution, to twist science to his hidden agenda, or to misdirect needed research.

The damage Dr. Sagan committed will persist, unfortunately.  Narrow mindedness is not the sign of a scientific mind.

Posted 2009-11-08T20:47:32Z
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Thank you Rockmike3 for explaining your experience with Dr. Sagan further.  I am very appreciative of your generous response and would like for you to share your theory of Divine Creation with us if you will.

Posted 2009-11-08T22:38:48Z

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