Why not PAY FOR HEALTH CARE instead of paying for HEALTH CARE INSURANCE PREMIUMS?

I agree that insurance companies deny, deny, deny.  However, if there was no insurance how can anyone pay a hospital bill?  I find it outrageous that such a war on health care continues to plague us.  Nobody, absolutely nobody should be denied good quality health care.  It should be a given at birth.

I agree. We need health care not health insurance. In 2008 our 'out of pocket" amount' became $8,250.00 annually. So consequently we have to pay most of our medical bills. I have Medicare and a supplemental insurance. Medicare pays very little and as yet the supplement (UHC) has paid nothing on my bills. My husband is not on Medicare and UHC has paid some on his bills.I hope if we ever have a health care catastrophy, the insurance co. would pay 90% of the cost over the OOP amount. But maybe I am dreamimg. Insurance have no (or few) controls on their actions. We need NOT FOR PROFIT medical care. We need to get insurance entirely out of the medical/health care industry.

I agree. We need health care not health insurance. In 2008 our 'out of pocket" amount' became $8,250.00 annually. So consequently we have to pay most of our medical bills. I have Medicare and a supplemental insurance. Medicare pays very little and as yet the supplement (UHC) has paid nothing on my bills. My husband is not on Medicare and UHC has paid some on his bills.I hope if we ever have a health care catastrophy, the insurance co. would pay 90% of the cost over the OOP amount. But maybe I am dreamimg. Insurance have no (or few) controls on their actions. We need NOT FOR PROFIT medical care. We need to get insurance entirely out of the medical/health care industry.

I don't know if insrance companies will ever be entirely out of the health care business.  However, what insurance companies need is to hire people who are knowledgeable about health care.  HMO's hire people who are unfamilar with medical technolgoy and medication management.  I have come across insurance companies that handled my case grossly, indequately.  Simply, they lack knowledge and get paid very little.  People with health care knowledge would not work for insurance companies that paid them little.  I know that I could never pay out of my pocket for health care and nobody should.

I would also say that it would be better if the health care system becomes subsidized in general.

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CBO to Obama: "Your healthcare plan sucks"/Biden Confirms It

Well, CBO punked Obama again.  I would say they are good at it but the reality is that Obama's policies are so stupid as to make him an easy target.

Today's punking comes in testimony by the CBO Director to Congress.  Basically, CBO says that Obama's spending on healthcare, which is designed to lower overall costs, won't work.  Costs will more likely go up.

This is a shocker of a shocker (sarcasm).  Anyone who has taken Economics 101 could have predicted this.  Subsidizing healthcare will cause people to demand more of it... and when demand goes up while supply stays the same or goes down, prices go up.  Duh.

 Of course backers of the bill brought out that deeply philosophical, patented Obama defense... It's better than doing nothing.  Except, CBO says that doing nothing actually costs less.  Doh!

But, that logic is totally consistent with Obama Administration views on everything and confirmed by none other than Joe Biden himself today.

Actual quote:

“And folks look, AARP knows and the people with me here today know, the president knows, and I know, that the status quo is simply not acceptable,” Biden said at the event on Thursday in Alexandria, Va. “It’s totally unacceptable. And it’s completely unsustainable. Even if we wanted to keep it the way we have it now. It can’t do it financially.”
 
“We’re going to go bankrupt as a nation,” Biden said.
 
“Now, people when I say that look at me and say, ‘What are you talking about, Joe? You’re telling me we have to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt?’” Biden said. “The answer is yes, that's what I’m telling you.”

Again, we get that strange Obama logic.  Biden says that current government spending by Obama (increased over Bush Admin spending) is unsustainable.  Therefore, we have no choice but to spend more, which will somehow save us from bankruptcy.

I think those Mayans were on to something with that end of the world in 2012 prediction.  It's hard to imagine how bad things can get when these guys are already this stupid after only six months.

Insurance can support only the bill requirements. Health care is different because it is somewhat prevention. My opinion is to realize the health care management by putting certain government budget to the infrastructures like a corner medical station which caters basic check up and basic remedies. Also, a nutritional store or alternative/ food supplemented store