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Obama and his administration have got to be the most irresponsible, uniformed group of individuals ever to inhabit the wall of the White House. He is distroying the stabillity of this nation with his idealistic Utobia ideas that can never work in the real world. I am certian that he in the long run will go down in history as one of the worst if not the worst and most distruct president in our nations history. Flowery speach and a warm smile does translate into compinentcy.
Posted 2009-05-31T17:59:12Z
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moosemose or John,
Aside from the grade-school taunt of making fun of someone's name, you have provided a mixed stew of extremist claims without recognizing their limitations, including that many of them are demonstrably false. I realize, friend, that you did not invent the lies, but are repeating, I suspect in good faith, assertions of others. 
As a Jew and a Zionist I think that we Jews have the same national rights as every other nation. If we deny the rights of Palestinians, we are also denying our own. Obama and the international community in general oppose the building of new housing on occupied territory in violation of International Law, in most cases also of Israeli law and international agreements, and to the detriment of the rights of the people whose land has been seized by force as well as of Israeli security! Far from being an act of genocide as is attributed in the story to a Pharoah, this is a demand to take a first tiny step in the direction of obeying the law! There is no demand to not allow for natural growth, but for not seizing other people's homes and farms for that purpose.
What is more, Israeli polls, taken by the Orthodox religious University Bar Ilan, show that a majority of Israeli Jews as well as American Jews support this position. Both the parents and children should return to Petah Tikvah or any place they would like to live in Israel. By the way, despite Mr. Hershkowitz misleading statement, most people moving into the settlements are not grown children of the settlement, but people pressed into the settlements because the government has subsidized such housing to the extent that they can no longer afford equivelent housing in Petah Tikvah or elsewhere in Israel!
Then why doesn't the Israeli administration also support it. You have to understand that this and recent Israeli administrations have been made up of coalitions of enemies in which the ultra-orthodox and racist nationalist parties, while a minority, hold the key to the prime minister remaining in office with all its perks. To put the current government together, Netanyahu (if you do want to play with names, his is a claim to be a 'gift of G_d') had to offer cabinet posts with their accompanying limos and other perks, to a quarter of the members of the Knesset (parliament), having to invent new cabinet positions as he went along. As a Zionist, I wish that this weren't true, but this is the kind of self-serving, corrupt government the prophets railed against!
Do the Palestinians have a legal right to their land? Yes. Indeed the same United Nations decisions that made the independence of Israel possible, also guarantee the national rights in their part of the land. This is a conflict between the very real rights of two nations (and some poor bystanders swept in) with legitimate claims. A century and a half ago and for over a millenia before the majority population of this land was Palestinian Arab with substantial Jewish populations in Jerusalem and some other large towns. If you look at land deeds you find that they represent many replattings and disputed ownerships over the centuries. There is no way to sort these out, as many claimants are right in their conflicting claims; there must be resolution through negotiation to reach the least unjust outcome. That outcome, both for justice and mutual security, must be one that both sides can live with.
There are, of course, Arab racists who cry 'kill the Jews' just as there are Jewish and American racists who cry 'kill the Arabs'. When a local Hassidic Rabbi submitted a call for killing all Arabs regardless of whether they posed a threat or had committed any crimes, the vast majority of the Jewish community, including other Lubavitcher rabbis immediately condemned the statement, just as Palestinian Authority leaders have condemned such statements by Palestinian speakers. It is worth noting that while Israel, with a million Arab citizens, has never had an Arab cabinet minister, the PA has had a Jewish minister, albeit the relatively junior Minister of Minority Affairs. Hardly, however, the action of a government committed to "kill every last Jew"!
It is, on the other hand that Palestinians, Israelis, Jews and Arabs, Christians, Jews and Moslems among others have all resorted to despicable military terrorism, as has the US, at times. These acts are to be condemned, not the entire nations. We did not condemn all Germans and their allies (such as George Herbert Walker, Prescott Bush, the Dulles brothers, IBM which sought out and won the lucrative contract for the system that made possible keeping a record on almost every Jew, Roma, Socialist, Communist, member of the Confessional Church, Jehovah's Witness and so on so that they could be tracked and eventually 'renditioned' to a concentration camp), but strove to bring them into our society.
If you have read the Tanakh ("old testament") as I have you know that land is promised to Israel in various terms and all vague, up to 'from the big river of the north to the big river of the south', which extreme nationalists interpret as being from the Euphrates to the Nile. It also ascribes to G_d the command to kill every living thing in Jericho from the child to the bearded ancient, man and woman, sheep, ox and ass, and to only leave Rahav the prostitute and all her house. Do you really think that came from the Father of All or from a commander who wanted to promise something to his lusty young troops? (see the book of Joshua, chapter 6) I heard members of the youth group of Netanyahu's party singing their old anthem [this side of Jordan, that side of Jordan] 'this side is ours, that side is, too!' But please don't blame that on all Israelis, Jews or on Zionists as opposed to Revisionists. There is no valid claim to specific borders of Israel based on biblical promises any more than those based on the Koran or any other sacred text.
Unfortunately, all too often it has been military terrorism which resulted in one nation or another ruling over land, even engaging in genocide, ethnocide or exile of nations (as the Romans did to Jews). That does not make it right, and such acts have often brought millenia of warfare (as in the case of the Viet struggles against China, France and the US for independence which lasted over a thousand years and left them with a destroyed nation still looking for over 300,000 mostly civilian POWs whom we've never accounted for, presumably mosty killed). Economists have shown that had we dealt fairly with the nations we found here instead of engaging in mass murder, that not only would they be better off, but so would we. When it looked briefly like the Oslo Accords would be realized, Israelis and Palestinians began to travel back and forth and business ties of great promise began, only to be destroyed as the settlements and military abuses continued. There were attacks by partisans of each side even in the best of times, but they were rare and the resort to military 'defense' multiplied the losses on both sides. Only the arms merchants and the officers who were able to advance in rank gained, and that only in the narrowest of terms!
Only a negotiated two-state solution can bring peace, prosperity and security to both peoples and their neighbors -- and reduce the very grave risks to the US and the rest of the world.
Shalom, Salaam, Peace!
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Mat. 6:33 "Seek Ye First the Kingdom of God and All these things Shall Be Added to You!!!
Hi Zev! I understand Ur "Emotional Position" on this issue that has kept U from answering all but possibly One question I asked. To date, no one including Urself has given me an ANSWER on ANY OF SEVERAL POSTS as to where Obummers "Authority" to make ANY DEMANDS in this matter comes from & yet, of those who do Answer, they ALL (without stated Reason) will Defend his Actions & "Praise him as if he is the Mesiah", why??? Yes, I have read the OT (Tanakh) & I seem to put much more Faith & give much more Praise to G_d (God) as a Messianic Jew then those who have Answered my Q.!!! I gotta ask Zev, if Netanyahu told U that U had to move & give up the land of Ur Fathers here in America, how soon would it be before U left??? Tell me EXACTLY how giving this land to the PLO is going to stop the Killing of Jews anywhere in the World??? Face it, until the Jews fought for this land, the PLO never wanted it!!! Now that the Jews have Worked their Arsses off in Developing it the PLO wants it & it's new found Riches (OIL) without ANY "Sweat Equity"!!! Why??? We both know it is a way of "Provoking Israel" to "War" with the Arab/Muslim Nations. How can U Deny all of Jewish History, Ur History & the Covenants of Our G_d (GOD) with Us His Chosen People??? John
Posted 2009-06-07T04:33:32Z
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Moosemose,
You may want to reread my post, directly above your response, to your somewhat disorganized post challenging Palestinians' legal and other rights to statehood. You might note that i do not in any way " Defend his [Obama's] Actions & 'Praise him as if he is the Mesiah'! I support actions of anyone who works for peace and reconciliation and oppose those actions of anyone, certainly including Obama, which promote militarism and other forms of terrorism.
You assert: " Face it, until the Jews fought for this land, the PLO never wanted it!!!" You are apparently unaware that Palestinians, like Jews, have fought to defend their land and national rights for thousands of years, though neither the PLO nor the current Zionist movement existed until recently. The PLO was organized in response to Israel's independence and thus could not have 'wanted it' prior to its birth, but Palestinians were there as were a Jewish minority and both clearly wanted it.
You continue: " Now that the Jews have Worked their Arsses off in Developing it the PLO wants it & it's new found Riches (OIL) without ANY 'Sweat Equity'!!!". When I lived in Israel, when it was new, I visited Arab communities that also were hundreds of thousands of years old in which people had sweated for generation after generation building beautiful villages amidst their olive and citrus plantations and their fields. Israelis, Jews and Arabs, have indeed worked very hard to build the current state with its beautiful cities and rural areas, but so have Palestinians! Go and you will see for yourselves if you go with your eyes rather than your preconceptions open.
You also ask, " I gotta ask Zev, if Netanyahu told U that U had to move & give up the land of Ur Fathers here in America, how soon would it be before U left???"
Netanyahu has, of course, asked us American Jews to leave and go to Israel. I have remained here for various personal reasons, as have most American Jews.
I do live on land stolen by no right but might (which is a wrong, not a right!), and have long sought to get my government to negotiate with the land's rightful owners to come to an agreement on how to resolve that. Clearly at the least we should as a State and as a Nation pay the long-overdue debts from unequal treaties which our governments have never honored, and make good on all trust funds.
You ask, too, " Tell me EXACTLY how giving this land to the PLO is going to stop the Killing of Jews anywhere in the World???"
Just as the killing of Germans by Jewish terrorist groups (resistance fighters to us) stopped soon after the end of the Holocaust, attacks on Jews by Palestinians and on Palestinians by Jews can be expected to decline and eventually end as Israel, which kills and imprisons generally about one thousand Palestinians for every terrorist killing or kidnapping by Palestinians, stops its attacks and recognizes Palestinian national rights. For two thousand years we survived because we were given refuge among Arabs and, later, Moslems, as well as Ethiopians, Indians, and Chinese, among others, while first the Roman Empire and then other Europeans tried to annihilate us in the name of Christ and of civilization. I can remember the most recent major attempt.
Your final question, " How can U Deny all of Jewish History, Ur History & the Covenants of Our G_d (GOD) with Us His Chosen People???"
John, I don't want to mess with your mind, but like most actual Jews I think that 'Messianic Jew' is a misnomer of people who want to identify as Jews but are not. What is more if the concept of G_d is as the parent of all people, I can not imagine a compassionate parent so distinguishing among his/her children as to choose one people over all others, though of course separate agreements may be made with each as appropriate. I have studied Jewish history and while no expert, I see no promise to us of all of what is now Israel and Palestine -- with or without Jordan. That concept is a product of British divide and rule strategies of the WWI era and following and has to do with Euro-American Imperialism and nothing whatsoever to do either with Jewish history of with G_d! If there is a God, then that is the parent of all and all peoples are Chosen Peoples!
I hope that you will find that these point by point responses are direct and to the point, including that I am not Obama's spokesperson and that my position is mine and I don't want to or have to defend his. If he behaves well, I will support that; if he acts poorly, I will be critical. Why do those who so hate him try to pretend that everyone else somehow worships him?
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Mat. 6:33 "Seek Ye First the Kingdom of God and All these things Shall Be Added to You!!!
Hey Zev, big diference between being "Asked" to "Come Home" & build it to it's "Former Glory" & being "Ordered to get the "Hell Out" & U know that Zev! The Fact U acknowledge "Native Americans" being "Displaced" & think they should be "Compensated" for their "Loss" Puzzels me Zev. Are U wanting to "Pay them Personally" for Ur portion of "Stolen Land & Lost Lives" at this time??? Do U think some "Authority Figure" should check out All such Cases throughout History & "Compensate All Losers" in such Cases??? What about the Cases where God Ordered the "Utter Destruction" of Entire Nations in Scripture??? Who is going to make God Pay??? Not "Messin with my Mind is appreciated Zev, cause I don't have much left, but U Want to be Known as Jewish & yet Deny God, now how's that done??? I am Jewish by my Mother, Grandmother & so on, but have Found My Savior Jesus Christ who is God & the Holy Spirit in My Belief. All of Mankind yes is Related but when we became "Contaminated" God Destroyed the World to Undo what Satan & Womankind did & Maintained the Faithful for His Future Plan. Gods' Covenant with Abram Included Land promised Abram which was for the Jews & this is NOT a "British Concept" but can be found in the Tanakh (OT) Genesis 13:1-18 !!! Zev I gotta tell U bud, U can live Ur Life any way U want because God gave Us all Free Will from the "Garden" on, but He has Preserved Scriptures showing Us His Love, Purpose & Justice in dealing with His Creations FOR A REASON!!! He has Saved a Remnant of His Chosen People For a Reason & has Shown Us His Purpose, which I quite Frankly Believe in & CHOOSE to Follow!!! When I see someone like Obummer going against Gods' Plan, I have to say it is Wrong, & that person is an "Anti-Christ" per Scripture Definition which is Gods' Word, not mine!!! John
Posted 2009-06-09T22:03:42Z
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God grant us the compassion to render solace one to another, the strength to be gentle, and the wisdom to know what to do.
I hate to bear bad news, folks, but the entire world belongs to the Lord: we are merely tenants as the Landlord directs.
No one with any appreciation of history doubts that every religion that laid claim to the Holy Land, did so by linking their family line to Abraham. That has resulted in lots of falsified and disputed claims over the years. And it has resulted in bloodshed. Lots of it. It only gets worse with time.
Politically, we are allied to Israel, and have good offices with Syria, Lebanon, and Egypt. The Kabul Embassy is open again, as is the Baghdad Embassy. Our Embassy in Riyadh is constantly under mortar attack, half the people claim that we are "Infidel oppressors here to destroy Islam" and the other half say, "America is our friend, as they got rid of Saddam Hussein!"
Not to harp on the nature of sin again, but when people take sides, we make enemies.
When we refuse to take sides, we make friends.
We have done much to prove the concept of peace through strength -- and sound discipline -- to lawless powers around the world.
Only as long as people take sides will we continue to have enemies.
I side with God, and He loves us all equally. Is it so hard to think it through and find a solution to misery that you can share with others who have joined warring factions?
Let the Prince of Peace do His job, and earth will turn into a little piece of Heaven.
In Jesus Name, I bid you peace.
Posted 2009-06-14T05:03:49Z
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Mat. 6:33 "Seek Ye First the Kingdom of God and All these things Shall Be Added to You!!!
God wants Us to take "Sides", HIS SIDE"!!! People who Choose God's Side will of course make "Enemies"!!! Christ said that He will set Brother against Brother, where did U "Study Scripture" from??? "The Prince of Peace" isn't here now, He left Us the "Holy Spirit & Scripture" which Clearly says in regards to Israel, " I (God) will Bless those that Bless U (Israel) & Curse those that Curse U"!!! Here for Ur Edification are some Doctrines concerning this. Enjoy!!! John
DOCTRINE OF THE ABRAHAMIC COVENANT
A. Definition and Description.
1. The unconditional covenant (agreement, disposition) between God as
party of the first part in favor of Abraham and his progeny as the party of
the second part is the Abrahamic covenant. This is a justice covenant from
the justice of God. Unconditional means there are no strings attached.
2. This covenant is a deposition made by God in favor of Abraham.
3. Like all covenants, it is a part of the divine decrees.
4. Abraham is the beneficiary without merit. The source of this
blessing to Abraham and his descendants is not any merit in Abraham, but
Abraham's adjustment to the justice of God and the fact that God is pleased.
5. The source of this blessing to Abraham and his descendants is the
justice of God. The justice of God is free to fulfill this covenant to
Abraham at the point of his adjustment to the justice of God through the
attainment of his spiritual maturity. It's one thing to be in the covenant
(via salvation and rebound); it's another thing to know and understand the
covenant (in maturity).
B. The Original Declaration of the Covenant, Gen.12:1-3.
1. "Now JHWH [Jesus Christ] had spoken to Abram, `Go with reference to
yourself from your land, and from your relatives, and from the place of your
birth, to a land which I will cause you to see; And I will manufacture from
you a great nation, and I will bless you, and I will cause your person to
become great; therefore, you will become a blessing. And I will bless those
who bless you, but the one who despises you, I will curse, and all the races
shall be blessed through you."
2. Verse one emphasizes Abraham's necessary isolation and separation
from Ur for the fulfillment of the covenant, for the development of the new
race, and for the development of his spiritual advance, plus separation from
his family to avoid personal distraction. Land is specified because of
coming disaster.
3. Verse two is Abraham's logistical grace support necessary to
fulfill this promise. All four categories of blessing were given for the
encouragement of his momentum, and in anticipation of his reaching maturity
and historical impact.
4. Verse three is miscellaneous because it has three clauses:
a. Blessing by association.
b. A curse on anti-Semitism.
c. Messianic blessing clause.
C. The Land Promise in the Abrahamic Covenant, Gen 13:14-16.
1. "And the Lord said to Abram, after Lot had separated from him, `Now
lift up your eyes and look from the place where you are, northward and
southward and eastward and westward; for all the land which you see, I will
give to you and to your progeny forever. And I will make your descendants
as the dust of the earth; so that if anyone can count the dust of the earth,
then your descendants also can be counted."
2. This is amplified in Gen 15:18-21, which gives the dimensions.
3. The Jews do not have any right to this land until Jesus Christ
returns at the Second Advent. Any land they acquire now must be by
conquest, as with all other nations. Until the Second Advent, the Jews only
attain land by the principle of seizing and holding, a military principle
found in divine institution #4. To date, David had the largest amount of
land by conquering the indigenous population of the Jebusites.
4. This land promised goes from the Nile to Saudi Arabia to the
Euphrates to the Mediterranean.
D. The covenant was confirmed to Isaac, Gen 26:3-4.
1. This had to be done to prove the covenant would not be fulfilled
through the line of Ishmael.
2. This is the doctrine of blessing by association. Nations are
blessed because of their relationship with the Jewish nation.
E. The covenant was confirmed to Abraham's grandson Jacob, Gen 35:12. This
is why the title of Jesus Christ is so important as "the God of Abraham,
Isaac, and Jacob."
F. The covenant was confirmed at the time of the Exodus, Ex 6:2-8.
1. This was the time for the formation of the Jewish nation. This
covenant was the basis on which God delivered the Jews, a race in slavery,
and caused them to become a nation.
2. Six hundred years after the death of Abraham there are still
blessings to the Jews, all from blessing to one mature believer.
3. EL SHADDAI means the many-breasted God, referring to His many grace
provisions.
G. The mechanics of the abraham covenant demanded ultra-supergrace sexual
prosperity, Gen 17:1-7; Rom 4:13-18.
a. There is blessing in every generation to the Jews of that
generation. The omnipotence and logistical grace support of God are
emphasized.
b. Gen 17:2, "That I may give My covenant between Me and You; I will
cause you to be multiplied by maximum use of My power."
H. The new race and the land are brought together in the covenant, Gen
17:8. "Furthermore, I have given to you and to your descendants after you,
the land of your pilgrimage, all the land of Canaan, for an eternal
possession; therefore, I will be your God."
I. Circumcision is the ritual of confirmation and acknowledgment that this
is an unconditional covenant, Gen 17:9-14; Rom 4:13-18.
a. Circumcision in Israel is a reminder that God keeps His word.
b. Circumcision means that any Jew, who believes in Christ, will be
the recipient of this covenant forever.
c. Circumcision illustrates the faith-rest drill and Abraham's
dependence on the omnipotence and faithfulness of God.
J. Amplification of the Covenant after Abraham Passes Momentum Testing, Gen
22:17-24.
K. The Covenant and Joseph's Coffin. The Abrahamic covenant became the
basis of Joseph having something greater in dying than he ever had in
living: Joseph's coffin. His coffin was a doctrinal reminder to the Jews
that God would deliver them. It was never placed in the ground, but was
carried with the Jews to the Land, Heb 11:22.
L. God has promised a city forever suspended over the Land, Rev 21:2, 10.
1. This city, the new Jerusalem, extends from the Nile to the
Euphrates, and from the Mediterranean to Saudi Arabia.
2. This city is so beautiful that it looks like a bride. Of course,
all brides are beautiful, being animated.
3. This city is part of Abraham's eternal escrow blessings.
DOCTRINE OF THE NEW COVENANT TO ISRAEL
A. Definition.
1. A covenant is a disposition made by one party (God) in favor of
another party (the regenerate of Israel).
2. The Mosaic Law or Mosaic Covenant is also called the old covenant.
It was a covenant of shadow worship, shadow building, shadow priesthood, and
shadow offerings.
3. Therefore, its function was legitimate only in a shadow
dispensation, which is that part of the Age of Israel from Moses to Christ.
4. The first advent of Christ and His saving work on the cross
abrogated the old covenant and/or the Mosaic covenant.
5. The old covenant was given to the nation Israal and was not given
to the Gentiles and not given to the Church. When the Church Age came
along, the Mosaic Law was rescinded and superceded by the new covenant to
the Church. A new covenant had to be established because of the limitations
of the old covenant. The new covenant to the Church authorizes the royal
family of God during the Church Age, sets up the modus operandi of the royal
family, and sets up a universal priesthood among believers.
a. The new covenant to the Church rescinds and supercedes the old
covenant to Israel. The old covenant to Israel, the Mosaic Law, has been
rescinded and replaced with a better covenant--the new covenant to the
Church, Heb 7:18-19, "For on the one hand, there is a rescinding of the
former covenant because of its weakness and uselessness (for the Law brought
nothing to completion), but on the other hand there is the bringing in of a
better hope through which we draw near to God." All Church Age believers
are under a new covenant with a royal priesthood, High Priest, and Mediator
which is different. A mediator must provide a spiritual life compatible to
a new spiritual species in the new covenant to the Church.
b. Because of the limitations of the Mosaic Law it needed to be
rescinded.
(1) The Law cannot justify, Rom 3:20; Gal 2:16; Rom 3:28.
(2) The Law cannot provide the filling of the Holy Spirit
and the spiritual life that comes from it, Gal 3:2,5.
(3) The Law cannot provide a spiritual life, Rom 8:1-6;
10:4, "For Christ is the end of the Law for righteousness for everyone who
believes in Him." Rom 13:10, "...Virtue-love is the fulfillment of the
Law."
6. The new covenant to Israel is eschatological and is not operational
until the second Advent of Christ. The new covenant to Israel recognizes
the fulfillment of the unconditional covenants to Israel in the past, the
Abrahamic, Palestinian, and Davidic Covenants, and sets up a modus operandi
for Israel in the millennium.
7. The new covenant to Israel is a legacy for restored Israel during
the millennial reign of Christ and is taken from the new covenant to the
Church, not from the old covenant to Israel.
8. The new covenant to Israel emphasized the rulership of Jesus Christ
on the one hand, but it also has a revival of the Levitical priesthood on
the other hand.
B. Scripture: Jer 31:31-34 quoted in Heb 8:8-12, quoted in part in Heb
10:15-18, and mentioned as a magnificent point of doctrine in Gal 4:4.
C. The New Authorizing Agency in Israel. The abrogation of the Mosaic Law
by the saving work of Christ on the cross plus the strategic victory (death,
burial, resurrection, ascension, and session) leaves Israel without
authorization for their Levitical priesthood. Therefore, the new covenant
to Israel replaces the Mosaic Law and gives a new license to the Levitical
priesthood in the millennium. The function of that priesthood is described
in great detail in Ezek 40-48.
D. The New Dispensation for Israel. Israel will be restored at the second
advent of Christ when Christ will begin His millennial reign. The new
covenant to Israel is the authorizing agency for the restored Israel of the
Millennium as well as the verification of the fulfillment of the
unconditional covenants that have never been fulfilled.
E. The Basis of the New Covenant to Israel.
1. Neither the Hebrew noun BERITH, nor the Greek noun DIATHEKE, refer
to a will or testament.
2. The new covenant to Israel goes into effect with the sacrifice of
the blood of Christ and/or the spiritual death of Christ and/or His
efficacious sacrifice.
3. Therefore, the blood of Christ is the spiritual legacy for both the
royal family in the Church Age and Israel in the millennium.
4. The new covenant to Israel is valid because of the blood of Christ,
the efficacious death of Christ on the cross bearing our sins. It is valid
because Christ sits in the mercy seat.
5. The new covenant to Israel is a reality in contrast to the shadows
of the Old or Mosaic Covenant.
6. The new covenant functions in the millennium when Christ reigns as
David's greater Son. He is the royal family's high priest, and Israel's
King. There will be a place in the millennium for the Levitical priesthood
because Christ will reign over Israel as David's great Son.
7. Animal sacrifices during the millennium, taught in Ezek 40-48, are
no longer shadows, but represent a frame of reference and memorial to Israel
concerning the saving work of Christ on the cross, Heb 9:15-17. Sin
offerings are renewed in the millennium under the New Covenant to Israel,
Ezek 49:19-27, 43:19, 21-22, 25. Sin offerings has two classifications as
it had in the Mosaic Law--the burnt offering (propitiation with emphasis on
the salvation work of Christ), Ezek 43:24, 27, and the peace offering
(reconciliation with emphasis on the salvation work of Christ), Ezek 43:27.
F. The New Covenant and the Tribulation.
1. The Lord will not be reigning in the Tribulation. Satan will still
be the ruler of this world.
2. Therefore, the new covenant to Israel will not be operative.
During the seven years of the Tribulation, there will be neither the new
covenant to the Church nor the new covenant to Israel.
3. There will be a tribulational temple, but it is a place of apostasy
and reversionism, and is not authorized by the old covenant or the new
covenant to Israel.
4. The new covenant to the Church will not be operative during the
Tribulation because the Church has already been resurrected or raptured.
5. Neither of the new covenants operates during the Tribulation.
6. Therefore, God sets up a different type of spiritual function
during the Tribulation. It is different from anything that happened in the
past, but in some ways similar to the period of the judges. God sets up
144,000 Jews as spiritual leaders throughout the earth. They are
evangelists and spiritual leaders. Twelve from every tribe except Dan, the
tribe from which comes the Antichrist.
G. The new covenant to Israel is the authorizing agent for the restored
Israel of the millennium. The new covenant to Israel verifies the future of
Israel and recognizes that the unconditional covenants will be fulfilled.
God keeps His word. The new covenant to Israel replaces the Mosaic Law for
the function of Israel's priesthood in the millennium.
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The lowest servant in Heaven is still in Heaven.
Whoever rules in hell is still in hell, but they won't rule for long.
Moose, dear soul, are you aware that politics and faith don't mix? Like the preacherman said, taking sides is only going to get us all in deep kim-chee.
I hate to tell you, but no one really owns land. We pay someone for the right to use it for awhile, then we cede that right when we croak. I have it in my will how our land is to be apportioned to our kids -- and the business if they can resurrect it -- but face it, Moose, no one actually owns land.
I am the first to agree that the Israelis have the right to a Jewish homeland. The soundest claim to a place is right of conquest and they took it by force.
Hamas and Al Qaeda claim that the Jews are trespassing on their land -- but folks, Israel is there to stay.
The truth be known, we need all the allies we can get.
Posted 2009-06-14T06:42:03Z
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