Will Obama wait until Iran nukes something before he takes action?


Iran Begins War Games To Protect Nuclear Sites Five-day drill will cover an area a third of the size of Iran
TEHRAN, Iran - Iran on Sunday began large-scale air defense war games aimed at protecting the country's nuclear facilities against any possible attack, state television reported.
It said the five-day drill will cover an area a third of the size of Iran and spread across the central, western and southern parts of the country.
Gen. Ahmad Mighani, head of an air forceunit that deals with threats to Iran's air space, said Saturday the war games would cover regions where Iran's nuclear facilities are located.
The drill involves both Iran's elite Revolutionary Guard, the paramilitary Basij forces affiliated with the Guard as well as army units.
The United States and its European allies accuse Iran of embarking on a nuclear weapons program. Iran denies the charge and insists the program is only for peaceful purposes.
Israel has not ruled out military action to stop Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons.
The commander of the Guard's air force, Gen. Amir Ali Hajizadeh, meanwhile sought on Sunday to play down the significance of Israel's threats against his country, saying they amounted to psychological warfare.
"We are sure they are not able to do anything against us since they can not predict our reaction," Hajizadeh was quoted as saying by the Guard's official Web site, Sephahnews.
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DanG: Gee that information you provided is scary! Right now I feel my country is not safe! I feel President Obama is not standing very strong, why didn't he react  to the 40,000 troops that was requested by our General in Afghanistan, yet he is still waiting? I hope we as a Nation will not be taken advantage of, because they feel we have a weak President! Yet, Eric Holder feels that the terrorist of 9/11 should be tried on our Soil in New York City and held in prisons in our State. Is this a form of standing up for American, I don't think so!

I have to think about this further and will watch this post. Thank you for the invite!

Posted 2009-11-22T22:13:45Z
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Obama has a yellow streak going down his spine

 

In this  image made available Sunday Nov. 22 2009 and taken from Al Alam TV,  a missile is fired in an unspecified location in Iran.   Iran on Sunday Nov. 22 2009 began large-scale air defense war games aimed at protecting the country's nuclear facilities against any possible attack, state television reported. It said the five-day drill will cover an area a third of the size of Iran and spread across the central, western and southern parts of the country. (AP Photo / Al Alam TV)

In this image made available Sunday Nov. 22 2009 and taken from Al Alam TV, a missile is fired in an unspecified location in Iran. Iran on Sunday Nov. 22 2009 began large-scale air defense war games aimed at protecting the country's nuclear facilities against any possible attack, state television reported. It said the five-day drill will cover an area a third of the size of Iran and spread across the central, western and southern parts of the country. (AP Photo / Al Alam TV)

Posted 2009-11-23T17:15:56Z
 
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"They would not find me changed from him they knew - only more sure of all I thought was true."

~Robert Frost

 

"Will Obama wait until Iran nukes something before he takes action?"


There has been enough information that is public knowledge and President Obama seems more concerned about H1N1 (declared a 'national emergency') than he does about the consequences of Iran's possession of nuclear weapons.

That is absurd when one considers the significance of destructive weapons and their ramifications of nuclear capabilities! The Obama administration has continued to court favor with China (without success) and has disallowed his original stance and promises to Israel.  IF their is any logic to be found within this, it has been obscured by dissemination and misinformation.  

  http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200903u/netanyahu
 
"Netanyahu to Obama: Stop Iran - Or I Will"
A challenge concerning Iran's acquiring nuclear weapons that was blunt and to the point. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Ayatollah Khamenei have both consistently called for Israel to be 'wiped off the map!'
 
Moshe Ya'alon, one of the chief security advisers said, "This is an existential threat for Israel, but it will be a blow for American interests, especially on the energy front. Who will dominate the oil in the region—Washington or Tehran?"
Quote from the above article: Netanyahu offered Iran's behavior during its eight-year war with Iraq as proof of Tehran's penchant for irrational behavior. Iran "wasted over a million lives without batting an eyelash … It didn't sear a terrible wound into the Iranian consciousness. It wasn't Britain after World War I, lapsing into pacifism because of the great tragedy of a loss of a generation. You see nothing of the kind."
 
My opinion? Obama's stance in Iraq and Afghanistan hasn't alleviated what is becoming a major crisis in the Middle East. He has disregarded the intelligence reports via the American military and other nations. Does Obama know the definition of 'War Games?' Does he understand the 'reality' of nuclear weapons? I certainly do!
 
Japan in 1947 remains etched in memory for two reasons: I met my father and I saw the devastation of the country/people. I am an Army Brat and wife -- my father was a Signal Corps Officer that was KIA during his third tour of duty in Korea. My husband was a Military Intelligence Officer and interrogator
in Vietnam. He served in the field with Recon units -- he was KIA one month before completing an eighteen month tour of duty.
 
DanG, thank you for bring this to the attention of those who have chosen to ignore the reality of President Obama and his administration. There are members of Yedda who need to understand that Iran has been allowed to become a formidable opponent with nuclear capabilities.

 

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Posted 2009-11-24T05:08:19Z
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"They would not find me changed from him they knew - only more sure of all I thought was true."

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DanG

Is there a way to include a link to this question in the other forums ?

AP and Sweet Gypsey are more adept with the new format than I am . . . AP, what do you think? Your answers, comments and opinions are always 'right on target!' A thank you for addressing your own difficulties within Yedda in a way that has not allowed anyone to dictate your posts! 

H1N1 is a 'national emergency (24 October)?' IF this is a national emergency, what is the Middle East and the 'War Games' of Iran's nuclear power threat?

hs

 

Posted 2009-11-24T21:51:09Z
 
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Hurt me once
 
Shame on you!
 
Hurt me twice
 
Shame on me!
 

"GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS"

 

"This was in the Mail this Morning, Very Interesting"
"Please take A Few Minutes to Read, Thank You For Your Time"
 
Good Afternoon,


Last week when Obama was in China it was announced that it was doubtful he would attend the climate change talks in Copenhagen. When I heard this it didn't feel right. I thought to my self, "Since when would Obama give up a spot on the world stage?" Especially on the heals of receiving his Nobel Peace prize.That's a double whammy for the next President of the world. It just didn't make sense.


So like any good American who no longer trusts anything that is said, or in print, I went digging on the net. Looking for the variables in search of the truth. Easier said than done as the net has it's own agendas, but this is what I came up with.


There is an old saying that comes to mind when dealing with our government. " To get the answer you must survive the question."


So what is the question that is worth survival? I think it is a simple all encompassing profound question that is comprised of only one word. That question is simply "WHY."


Does WHY = Pi? Maybe, but I don't think so in this case. Where there are lot's of whys when it comes to Obama, I think that the answer is simple. He has said it. "TO FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THE UNITED STATES." It's about the only campaign promise he has kept.


In trying to shed light on this absurd quest of his I have added a link for your viewing pleasure. It is only a couple of minutes long. I had seen this video back in the Spring. It now makes a lot more sense now, than it did at that time. When I viewed it in the Spring it was more like a conspiracy theory. Now it is more like a prophecy coming true. This link is just an introduction to the full length version of the film The Obama Deception. You will find that link on the page also. If you have some time to kill it is well worth looking at. If you listen closely there is one segment that makes a whole lot of sense, and may serve in saving you what you have left in your 401K. Maybe?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R227Mho8Ymc&feature=email
Alex Jones' The Obama Deception"The People Strike Back "





If you watched the clip then what I would like to point out next will make sense. If not hit delete message, and check the box scores.
Below is the caption that has been flashing across the NO STREAM media's captions for several days now.


"China announced Thursday that it would cut 2005 carbon intensity levels -- the amount of CO2 produced per unit of GDP growth -- by 40-45 percent by 2020.
The move boosted hopes for an agreement on a new pact to fight climate change at U.N.-led talks in Copenhagen next month."


Sounds wonderful doesn't it? Like wow, China is going to set the example for the world by reducing it's omissions by 40% of its unit GDP growth. Right, and pigs fly!


If the NO STREAM media had truly reported the story, the whole story, they would have included the rest of the story which ended with the following disclaimer.
"China, however, has emphasized that the target is a voluntary, domestically binding policy goal, raising the specter of a dispute at Copenhagen over whether and how reported Chinese emissions reductions will be checked.
Beijing insists that rich, industrialized countries should continue bearing most of the burden in reducing greenhouse gases and that developing nations like China and India must not be subject to mandatory emission reduction targets in any new deal.
China also said any new accord should include more financial and technological support for developing countries."


The only thing China is going to set the example of is to give Obama a talking point, and a verification of HIS agenda when he announces to the world what the United States is going to do. Will his goals mirror those stated by China? Boy would I like to know the real deal that was struck with China. More so, I would love to know how much it cost the United States for them to make this statement. Maybe it was revealed in the last statement of the article? FINANCIAL and TECHNOLOGICAL support for developing countries. Do you think China wants a some more of our action. Like maybe our last dime??
I have read the climate proposal. Simply put it is the beginnings of a New World Order. A World Government, that if left to our President will strip the U. S. of its last bit of sovereignty. It is a massive redistribution of wealth that makes the redistributed changes that are being attempted here at home, look like child's play.


The last thought I will leave you with is this. Is it possible that all of this is planned. Is Alex Jones on to something? Is this truly Obamas philosophy, or is this his handlers using his philosophy to help achieve the ends to their means? 


To be continued.


 B.

Posted 2009-11-28T19:27:21Z
 
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Hurt me once
 
Shame on you!
 
Hurt me twice
 
Shame on me!
 

"GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS"

 

 

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"WORTH READING, THANK YOU"
 
The Letter Everyone Is Talking About

This has to be the email forward of the year! 
Please take a few minutes to read and absorb just what this woman had to say, and then hopefully everyone will pass it to their entire mailing list, and theirs to theirs until it circles the nation! 
Time is short and arrogance, stupidity and ignorance abound..............

 
The following letter read on Glenn Beck's show, is rapidly circulating around the country. Americans everywhere identify with this 53-year-old woman. She has given us a voice. Once you read this, you will want to forward it to all of your friends...

 
GLENN BECK: I got a letter from a woman in Arizona . She writes an open letter to our nation's leadership:


"I am a home grown American citizen, 53, registered Democrat all my life. Before the last presidential election I registered as a Republican because I no longer felt the Democratic Party represents my views or works to pursue issues important to me. Now I no longer feel the Republican Party represents my views or works to pursue issues important to me. The fact is I no longer feel any political party or representative in Washington represents my views or works to pursue the issues important to me.   Instead, we are burdened with Congressional Dukes and Duchesses who think they know better than the citizens they are supposed to represent.
There must be someone. Please tell me who you are. Please stand up and tell me that you are there and that you're willing to fight for our Constitution as it was written. Please stand up now.
You might ask yourself what my views and issues are that I would feel so horribly disenfranchised by both major political parties. What kind of nut-job am I? Well, these briefly are the views and issues for which I seek representation:


One, illegal immigration. I want you to stop coddling illegal immigrants and secure our borders. Close the underground tunnels. Stop the violence and the trafficking in drugs and people. No amnesty, not again. Been there, done that, no resolution. P.S., I'm not a racist. This is not to be confused with legal immigration.


Two, the STIMULUS bill. I want it repealed and I want no further funding supplied to it. We told you No, but you did it anyway. I want the remaining unfunded 95% repealed. Freeze, repeal.


Three: Czars. I want the circumvention of our constitutional checks and balances stopped immediately. Fire the czars. No more czars. Government officials answer to the process, not to the president. Stop trampling on our Constitution, and honor it.


Four, cap and trade. The debate on global warming is not over. There are many conflicting opinions and it is too soon for this radical legislation. Quit throwing our nation into politically-correct quicksand.


Five, universal healthcare. I will not be rushed into another expensive decision that will burden me, my children, and grandchildren. Don't you dare try to pass this in the middle of the night without even reading it. Slow down!  Fix only what is broken -- we have the best health care system in the world -- and test any new program in one or two states first.


Six, growing government control. I want states rights and sovereignty fully restored. I want less government in my life, not more. More is not better! Shrink it down. Mind your own business.  You have enough to take care of with your real [Constitutional] obligations. Why don't you start there.


Seven, ACORN. I do not want ACORN and its affiliates in charge of our 2010 census. I want them investigated. I also do not want mandatory escrow fees contributed to them every time on every real estate deal that closes -- how did they pull that one off?  Stop the funding to ACORN and its affiliates pending impartial audits and investigations. I do not trust them with taking the census with our taxpayer money. I don't trust them with any of our taxpayer money. Face up to the allegations against them and get it resolved before taxpayers get any more involved with them. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, hello. Stop protecting your political buddies. You work for us, the people. Investigate.


Eight, redistribution of wealth. No, no, no. I work for my money. It is mine. I have always worked for people with more money than I have because they gave me jobs -- and that is the only redistribution of wealth that I will support. I never got a job from a poor person! Why do you want me to hate my employers? And what do you have against shareholders making a profit?


Nine, charitable contributions. Although I never got a job from a poor person, I have helped many in need. Charity belongs in our local communities, where we know our needs best and can use our local talent and our local resources. Butt out, please. We want to do it ourselves.


Ten, corporate bailouts. Knock it off. Every company must sink or swim like the rest of us. If there are hard times ahead, we'll be better off just getting into it and letting the strong survive. Quick and painful. (Have you ever ripped off a Band-Aid?) We will pull together. Great things happen in America under great hardship. Give us the chance to innovate. We cannot disappoint you more than you have disappointed us.


Eleven, transparency and accountability. How about it? No, really, how about it? Let's have it. Let's say we give the buzzwords a rest and have some straight honest talk. Please stop trying to manipulate and appease me with clever wording. I am not the idiot you obviously take me for. Stop sneaking around and meeting in back rooms making deals with your friends. It will only be a prelude to your criminal investigation. Stop hiding things from me.


Twelve, unprecedented quick spending. Stop it now.
Take a breath. Listen to the people. Slow down and get some input from nonpoliticians and experts on the subject. Stop making everything an emergency. Stop speed-reading our bills into law. I am not an activist. I am not a community organizer. Nor am I a terrorist, a militant or a violent person. I am a parent and a grandparent. I work. I'm busy.  I am busy, and I am tired. I thought we elected competent people to take care of the business of government so that we could work, raise our families, pay our bills, have a little recreation, complain about taxes, endure our hardships, pursue our personal goals, cut our lawn, wash our cars on the weekends and be responsible contributing members of society and teach our children to be the same all while living in the home of the free and land of the brave.


I entrusted you with upholding the Constitution. I believed in the checks and balances to keep from getting far off course. What happened? You are very far off course. Do you really think I find humor in the hiring of a speed reader to unintelligently ramble all through a bill that you signed into law without knowing what it contained? I do not.
It is a mockery of the responsibility I have entrusted to you. It is a slap in the face. I am not laughing at your arrogance. Why is it that I feel as if you would not trust me to make a single decision about my own life and how I would live it but you should expect that I should trust you with the debt that you have laid on all of us and our children. We did not want the TARP bill. We said no. We would repeal it if we could. I am sure that we still cannot. There is needless urgency and recklessness in all of your recent spending of our tax dollars.


From my perspective, it seems that all of you have gone insane. I also know that I am far from alone in these feelings. Do you honestly feel that your current pursuits have merit to patriotic Americans? We want it to stop. We want to put the brakes on everything that is being rushed by us and forced upon us. We want our voice back. You have forced us to put our lives on hold to straighten out the mess that you are making. We will have to give up our vacations, our time spent with our children, any relaxation time we may have had and money we cannot afford to spend on bringing our concerns to Washington . Our president often knows all the right buzzwords like unsustainable. Well, no kidding. How many tens of thousands of dollars did the focus group cost to come up with that word? We don't want your overpriced words. Stop treating us like we're morons.


We want all of you to stop focusing on your reelection and do the job we want done, not the job you want done or the job your party wants done. You work for us and at this rate I guarantee you not for long because we are coming. We will be heard and we will be represented.. You think we're so busy with our lives that we will never come for you? We are the formerly silent majority, all of us who quietly work, pay taxes, obey the law, vote, save money, keep our noses to the grindstone... and we are now looking at you.
You have awakened us, the patriotic freedom spirit so strong and so powerful that it had been sleeping too long. You have pushed us too far. Our numbers are great. They may surprise you. For every one of us who will be there, there will be hundreds more that could not come. Unlike you, we have their trust. We will represent them honestly, rest assured. They will be at the polls on voting day to usher you out of office.
We have cancelled vacations. We will use our last few dollars saved. We will find the representation among us and a grassroots campaign will flourish. We didn't ask for this fight. But the gloves are coming off. We do not come in violence, but we are angry. You will represent us or you will be replaced with someone who will. There are candidates among us who will rise like a Phoenix from the ashes that you have made of our constitution.


Democrat, Republican, independent, libertarian. Understand this. We don't care. Political parties are meaningless to us Patriotic Americans are willing to do right by us and our Constitution, and that is all that matters to us now. We are going to fire all of you who abuse power and seek more. It is not your power. It is ours and we want it back. We entrusted you with it and you abused it. You are dishonorable. You are dishonest. As Americans we are ashamed of you. You have brought shame to us. If you are not representing the wants and needs of your constituency loudly and consistently, in spite of the objections of your party, you will be fired. Did you hear? We no longer care about your political parties. You need to be loyal to us, not to them.. Because we will get you fired and they will not save you.
If you do or can represent me, my issues, my views, please stand up. Make your identity known. You need to make some noise about it. Speak up. I need to know who you are. If you do not speak up, you will be herded out with the rest of the sheep and we will replace the whole damn congress if need be one by one. We are coming. Are we coming for you? Who do you represent? What do you represent? Listen. Because we are coming. We the people are coming."

Posted 2009-11-28T19:29:52Z
 


Iran nuclear plant immune to conventional strike.
 
Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak said on Monday that Iran's recently diclosed second uranium enrichment plant is "immune" to conventional bombing. "The new site near Qom is meant for enrichment. What was revealed by the Iranians had been built over years and is located in bunkers that cannot be destroyed through a conventional attack," Barak told parliament's foreign affairs and defence committee.
 
Iran notified the UN nuclear watchdog in September that it was building a second enrichment plant near the central shrine city of Qom, after Washington accused it of covertly evading its notification responsibilities under the Non-Proliferation Treaty.
 
Confirmation of the construction work drew criticism not only from Western governments but also from the United Nations.
 
Enriched uranium can make the fuel for nuclear power plants but in highly extended form can also produce the fissile core of an atomic bomb.
 
Along with Western governments, Israel suspects Iran of seeking to develop a weapons capability under the guise of a civil nuclear programme, an accusation Tehran denies.
 
Along with its US ally, Israel, the region's sole if undeclared nuclear power, has refused to rule out a resort to military action to prevent Iran developing a bomb.
 
Barak said he feared Iran could develop a weapon by 2011.
 
"I believe that by early 2010 Iran will hold threshold technology (for building a bomb). That means that if it wanted, it could develop nuclear weapons within a year from obtaining threshold technology," a senior official quoted him as telling the parliamentary committee.
 
(Excerpt) Read more at spacewar.com

Posted 2010-01-01T14:15:51Z
 

I hear you are back in town Barry...

I hope you are paying attention.

This isn't going to just go away. You are going to have to deal with it.

 

Iran Plans Large-Scale War Games...



Warns West it will make its own nuclear fuel...

Posted 2010-01-04T14:53:19Z
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