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FACT CHECK: Obama's health care claims adrift ...

FACT CHECK: Obama's health care claims adrift?

 

By CALVIN WOODWARD and JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press Writers Calvin Woodward And Jim Kuhnhenn, Associated Press Writers – Thu Jul 23, 3:06 am ET

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama's assertion Wednesday that government will stay out of health care decisions in an overhauled system is hard to square with the proposals coming out of Congress and with his own rhetoric.

Even now, nearly half the costs of health care in the U.S. are paid for by government at all levels. Federal authority would only grow under any proposal in play.

A look at some of Obama's claims in his prime-time news conference:

OBAMA: "We already have rough agreement" on some aspects of what a health care overhaul should involve, and one is: "It will keep government out of health care decisions, giving you the option to keep your insurance if you're happy with it."

THE FACTS: In House legislation, a commission appointed by the government would determine what is and isn't covered by insurance plans offered in a new purchasing pool, including a plan sponsored by the government. The bill also holds out the possibility that, over time, those standards could be imposed on all private insurance plans, not just the ones in the pool.

Indeed, Obama went on to lay out other principles of reform that plainly show the government making key decisions in health care. He said insurance companies would be barred from dropping coverage when someone gets too sick, limits would be set on out-of-pocket expenses, and preventive care such as checkups and mammograms would be covered.

It's true that people would not be forced to give up a private plan and go with a public one. The question is whether all of those private plans would still be in place if the government entered the marketplace in a bigger way.

He addressed some of the nuances under questioning. "Can I guarantee that there are going to be no changes in the health care delivery system?" he said. "No. The whole point of this is to try to encourage changes that work for the American people and make them healthier."

He acknowledged then that the "government already is making some of these decisions."

OBAMA: "I have also pledged that health insurance reform will not add to our deficit over the next decade, and I mean it."

THE FACTS: The president has said repeatedly that he wants "deficit-neutral" health care legislation, meaning that every dollar increase in cost is met with a dollar of new revenue or a dollar of savings. But some things are more neutral than others. White House Budget Director Peter Orszag told reporters this week that the promise does not apply to proposed spending of about $245 billion over the next decade to increase fees for doctors serving Medicare patients. Democrats and the Obama administration argue that the extra payment, designed to prevent a scheduled cut of about 21 percent in doctor fees, already was part of the administration's policy, with or without a health care overhaul.

Beyond that, budget experts have warned about various accounting gimmicks that can mask true burdens on the deficit. The bipartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget lists a variety of them, including back-loading the heaviest costs at the end of the 10-year period and beyond.

OBAMA: "You haven't seen me out there blaming the Republicans."

THE FACTS: Obama did so in his opening statement, saying, "I've heard that one Republican strategist told his party that even though they may want to compromise, it's better politics to 'go for the kill.' Another Republican senator said that defeating health reform is about 'breaking' me."

OBAMA: "I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played in that. But I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry; number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home, and, number three, what I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there's a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately."

THE FACTS: The facts are in dispute between black scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. and the white police sergeant who arrested him at his Cambridge, Mass., home when officers went there to investigate a reported break-in. But this much is clear: Gates wasn't arrested for being in his own home, as Obama implies, but for allegedly being belligerent when the sergeant demanded his identification. The president did mention that the professor was charged with disorderly conduct. Charges were dropped.

OBAMA: "If we had done nothing, if you had the same old budget as opposed to the changes we made in our budget, you'd have a $9.3 trillion deficit over the next 10 years. Because of the changes we've made, it's going to be $7.1 trillion."

THE FACTS: Obama's numbers are based on figures compiled by his own budget office. But they rely on assumptions about economic growth that some economists find too optimistic. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, in its own analysis of the president's budget numbers, concluded that the cumulative deficit over the next decade would be $9.1 trillion.

Associated Press writer Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar contributed to this report.

 

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Why is it that the Obummer Administrations Figures are ALWAYS at Great Odds with Everyone else & not just a "Bit Off"???

Is this why Obummers Administration Witholds so much Information from the Public or they feel the Public is so Inferior to their Plans that we wouldn't Understand the "Big Picture"???


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Obama and his administration  do not want the people to know what he and his administration stand for, what they are about, and where he and his administration are taking this country. Their figures differ from other figures to allow them to move forward on his transformation of America. People will not like the out come of this transformation. Maybe the American people will learn a good lesson from their behavior during this past election.

As long as he can keep saying we have to do this and it has to be done now he will succeed at taking this country to a socialist country and then communism will follow and the people will be forced to give up all their Constitutional rights. This is how these people work. They work fast and quickly and will not take no for an answer.

If the large majority of the people or the public knew the truth of Obamas' intentions they would demand he be impeached; but as long as he can keep things moving fast and quick he will succeed at his plan. We the people will pay the price.

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Always live in the real world, not just in your mind

It really fascinated me when I read Senator Specter’s remarks in the news today, that the folks venting their frustrations concerning health care reform saying he didn’t think they were representative of Americans. From my point of view the applause given these people said differently. It amazes me how out of touch these professional politicians are when it comes to what the people want and then to stand in front of his constituents and talk as though he had read the legislation was insulting (reason for term limits). Many of the folks at the town meeting collectively knew more about the legislation than he did. He even stated" I’m impressed with the fact that people have been very well prepared."  He also stated they were vocal, but forgot to say they were very well informed, more than he. It also demonstrated he was not there to listen but to pontificate his thoughts and that of the party line.

 

In a venue I would have held, I would have listened and then asked how many folks agreed with what was said by the presenter. That would have given me a feel of what the people there wanted.  Being paid by them to represent them is why I must listen to them.

 

By the way if I was making around $175,000 a year I guess I could choose any health care plan I want. However most people don’t make that kind of money and are stuck with what is afforded them concerning health care and should be their decision whether they want it or not. If I go to Vegas and gamble my money away and then need money to live on there is no program whereby my employer must pay insurance so I can collect money to live on. In life people must make responsible decisions and then live by them. We all mess up occasionally then you must suck it up and move on. I have no sympathy for stupid or lazy people of which there are many and are enabled by our government programs. IRRITATION IS THE CATALYST FOR THE PROGRESSION OF LIFE. If there is no irritation there is no movement. So why put people in that position, votes probably.

 

We can't afford to reform health care. We can't afford not to. Medical costs account for one-sixth of domestic spending and are headed upward. They are handcuffing families and workers, and strangling federal and state governments. Plans being considered by Congress present daunting up-front costs. But reform, done the right way, will mean savings for families and businesses — money that can be pumped into the economy. Unfortunately, some Republicans seem content to stymie any Democratic plan on health care without putting forth any measures of their own. “Why start diverting attention from this really bad piece of work (the Democrats’ plan)?” U.S. Rep. Roy Blunt of Missouri asked last week, when suggesting GOP House members may not propose a health care bill. Sorry, but Republicans don’t get off that easily. The default plan is the status quo, which, as Obama noted last week, is “guaranteed to double your premiums, cause more Americans to lose their coverage and create larger budget deficits over the next 10 years.” Republican politicians must stop promoting the greatest myth of all: That somehow we will stumble into a system in which all Americans can have all the services they want, and no one will have to pay for it. U.S. Rep. Roy Blunt of Missouri Kaiser Family Foundation , 7/26/09 Health Care Can't Wait Today, Secretary Sebelius rejected the notion that health reform can wait another year. In an op-ed appearing on CNN.com, Sebelius makes the case that health reform will not only bring down costs, increase coverage, and improve the quality of care, but that health reform is essential to ensuring America’s economic future. Today, we have by far the most expensive health system in the world. We spend 50 percent more per person on health care than the average developed country, according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. We spend more on health care than housing or food, the McKinsey Global Institute reported. Nationwide, health care costs consume 18 percent of our gross domestic product. If we continue on our current path, health care costs will consume 34 percent of our GDP by 2040, and the number of uninsured Americans will rise to 72 million, according to the Council of Economic Advisers. Even though we spend more than any other nation on health care, we aren't healthier. Only three developed countries have higher infant mortality rates. Our nation ranks 24th in life expectancy among developed countries. More than one-third of Americans are obese. These statistics are the signs of a system that is both unacceptable and unsustainable. They also show us the high cost of doing nothing. If we choose the status quo, more Americans will be uninsured, costs will continue to rise, and every American's health care will be at risk. CNN, 7/15/09 Sick and Getting Sicker Entrepreneurship is a key tenet of the American Dream. However, the dream of owning one’s own business is becoming a more distant one for many as the cost of health care continues to escalate at a precipitous rate. An article in the Wall Street Journal takes a look at 3 small business owners who are in their own unique way being impacted by the high cost of health care. The article points out that for many small business owners, health care is their highest expense, just behind salaries. “At some businesses, in fact, health care is the highest expense after salaries—with devastating consequences. Owners must skimp on vital investments like marketing and research. Some can’t hire the people they want because top candidates demand premium coverage. Or they end up understaffed because of the high cost of insurance—and lose potential clients as a result. At the same time, to keep costs in check, countless companies are slashing coverage or dropping it entirely. Some are turning to freelancers or offshore workers instead of hiring full-timers and locals. And some would-be entrepreneurs find insurance so onerous that they’re not even starting a business in the first place.” “…Across the country in Oregon, business owner Paul Ward has discovered the many compromises it takes to set up health coverage for a small business. The founder of Web- and multimedia-design company Media Mechanic LLC, based in Tualatin, Ore., outside Portland, is in the process of trying to replace contract workers with three new full-time staffers. He wants local employees who know the market and can help establish the young business. But competition for high-tech workers is fierce, and the best workers demand benefits, Mr. Ward says. The cheapest plan he found will cost about $400 per employee in premiums, assuming the employees are young and healthy. Covering employees’ spouses and children would run as much as $800 per employee per month—if the company covers 100% of employee premiums and 50% of the spouses’ premiums. That’s simply too much to handle, Mr. Ward says, so he plans not to offer family coverage, and he’ll likely cover only half or two-thirds of his employees’ premiums. That’s a tough pill for Mr. Ward to swallow; in Michigan, where he grew up, workers’ rights reigned supreme, and he believes employers should offer the fullest possible coverage for their staffs. Even with those concessions, health insurance is likely to come in as the company’s No. 2 expense—second only to wages, and edging out rent and utilities. “It’s less money I can spend on marketing, and less money I can spend on investment in the company,” Mr. Ward says.”

 

ALOT OF US DISAGREE WITH YOU WE JUST NEVER GOT THE EMAIL OR ARE BUSY WORKING EVERYDAY

First Lady Visits Community Health Clinic

On Monday, First Lady Michelle Obama visited a community health center in Washington D.C. to announce $850 million in Recovery Act grants for clinics across the country. At the event, the first lady spoke about the critical role that community health centers play in fighting preventable diseases including: obesity, diabetes, heart disease and high blood pressure. As health reform legislation is being negotiated in Congress, President Obama has insisted that reform must include a focus on prevention.


"From the young to the old, from rural ... communities to the inner cities, both the insured and uninsured, 17 million Americans rely on community health centers every year to help them stay healthy," she said at Unity Health Care Inc.'s Upper Cardozo Health Center.
Mrs. Obama listed obesity, diabetes, heart disease and high blood pressure as diseases that community health centers can fight through preventive care. She expressed particular concern about the importance of teaching children to eat healthily.
"But to be effective in this fight, you're going to need more help, you're going to need more resources," the first lady said.
The $850 million will include $2.5 million to Upper Cardozo for 20 new examination rooms. According to Mrs. Obama every health center that applied will receive at least $200,000.

AP, 6/29/09 Exit Disclaimer

 

Official: U.S. health costs up, quality down

The United States spends more on health care than anyone "but unfortunately the quality of care is going down," said Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius in a conference call with regional reporters yesterday. As part of the Obama administration's push for health-care reform, Ms. Sebelius released "health care status quo" reports on each of the 50 states in conjunction with the conference call.


As part of the Obama administration's push for health-care reform, Ms. Sebelius released "health care status quo" reports on each of the 50 states in conjunction with the conference call.
Pennsylvania's numbers, compiled from several different sources, paint a picture reflective of what Ms. Sebelius said is happening nationwide: One in 10 state residents are without health insurance and, for those fortunate to have coverage, insurance premiums have doubled since 2000.
The numbers "represent real people and families across the country," she said. "Americans are demanding reform."

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 6/27/2009 Exit Disclaimer

 

Oklahoma health premium hikes cited in reform push

The average Oklahoma family’s health care premiums have risen by 77 percent since 2000, according to figures released Friday by Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius.  The secretary released figures for Oklahoma and all states on health care costs, the number of uninsured people and health problems. She called on Congress to pass health care reform legislation.


The secretary released figures for Oklahoma and all states on health care costs, the number of uninsured people and health problems. She called on Congress to pass health care reform legislation.
"In states across the country, health care costs are going up, and families are struggling to get the quality care they need and deserve,” Sebelius said.
"We cannot wait to pass reform that protects what works about health care and fixes what’s broken.”

The Oklohoman, 6/27/2009 Exit Disclaimer

 

Obama blasts health expenses

The number of Hoosiers who get their health insurance through their employer is dwindling, especially among workers at small businesses, as the cost of family premiums has doubled in less than a decade, the Obama administration said Friday. The Department of Health and Human Services issued a flurry of statistics for each state aimed at underscoring President Obama’s argument that “inaction is not an option.” “In states across the country, health care costs are going up, and families are struggling to get the quality care they need and deserve,” HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said in a conference call with reporters. “We cannot wait to pass reform that protects what works about health care and fixes what’s broken.”


“In states across the country, health care costs are going up, and families are struggling to get the quality care they need and deserve,” HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said in a conference call with reporters. “We cannot wait to pass reform that protects what works about health care and fixes what’s broken.”
Part of what’s broken in Indiana, the agency said, is the rapidly increasing cost of health insurance and the pinch it puts on employers and workers.
Obama supports a government-run health insurance program to compete with private insurers. Congressional committees have been wrestling with writing a bill that would cost less than $1 trillion over 10 years.

Fort Wayne Journal Gazette, 6/27/2009 Exit Disclaimer

 

Sebelius: families "crushed" by health care costs:

The Obama administration continued to argue for overhauling the health care system Friday by issuing state-by-state reports to build its case for reform. In Missouri and Kansas, 13 percent of the people are uninsured, according to the Census Bureau. That’s just under the national rate of 15 percent.


“Frankly, states get pretty mixed reviews of the quality of care they provide,” said Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius in a conference call with reporters.
“More than numbers and facts, they represent real people and families who…are being crushed by the high costs of health care.”
Eleven percent of Kansans reported that they declined to see a doctor because of costs, HHS said. In Missouri, 15 percent chose not to go.

KC Star, 6/26/2009 Exit Disclaimer

 

Sebelius Draws on State Data in Push for Health Care Overhaul:

Kathleen Sebelius, the former Kansas Governor who's now U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services, drew attention to state-specific health problems today. It's part of the White House's latest push to overhaul the nation's health care system. KCUR's Elana Gordon has more.  Sebelius says changing the health care system can't wait. Her statement follows the release of individualized state health data on the uninsured, insurance premium costs, and overall health care quality.


The report says high costs keep about one in ten Kansans and Missourians from going to the doctor. It also shows the average premiums that families pay for insurance in both states have doubled this decade.
Sebelius says this and other data from the report demonstrates the immense problems with health care throughout the country.
SEBELIUS: "Every day in America, families are being crushed by high cost of health care that threatens their financial stability, leads them exposed to high premiums and deductibles, and puts them at risk for possible lost of health insurance."

Posted 2009-08-15T08:47:09Z
 
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Obama and his administration are puppets of the Globalists who want one world government. If this health care bill passes, it will further help to bankrupt this country. If the cap and trade bill passes, it will bankrupt the people. Obama needs to go away and let us have our country back again.

 
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Congress Watcher,

One thumb up to you.  I wish I could give you more.  I totally agree with you.

Obama is taking this country to Communism.  Too bad the people who voted for him don't see this.  They are just interested in the freebies they are getting from the government.

 

Is this supposed to be the same kind of half-truths you try to serve about the obscene profits of the health care industry? You just posted something saying that they "only" make 5% profit. In a trillion dollar market that is still obscene money. Especially since its won by denying citizens what they had paid for: health care.

 

But I disgress: Since when is the republican party paying you? That would be the question to ask from someone who puts slurs and half-truths like these out there.

The presidents office has not held anything back so far. They would have to go and ask your good old Bush on how to do that and dis-inform the public most effectively - want an example? Need is say "weapons of mass destruction..."

Your posts are calamity for the all journalists out there doing a good job.

 
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Vroom! Vroom!

The President gave us a careful outline of his intentions. There are those who oppose him for selfish reasons and have put falsehoods out there for people who don't think for themselves to latch onto.

Gina...we can't afford NOT to fix healthcare. Healthcare is what will keep us in debt.

Posted 2009-10-30T20:14:55Z
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