You obviously did not understand ANY of it correctly. But you did your best to start a new rumor to dispell any REAL conversation of what we really need in America, comprehensive reforms in our heathcare delivery system.

niteowlette that was a post that I did for someone else, but here is more for you to chew on one on health and another from the some poster that was from last week, Enjoy both.............no need fo comments really am quite busy now and will not be able to get back to you.

Gypsey

Why not tell your people in Congress that you don’t really agree!!!!!
"AMERICA WILL NEVER BE DESTROYED FROM T HE OUTSIDE. IF WE FALTER AND LOSE OUR FREEDOMS, IT WILL BE BECAUSE WE DESTROYED OURSELVES"
ABRAHAM  LINCOLN 
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Little gems from the Health Care Bill

Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 4:12:23 PM by CMS
• Page 16: States that if you have insurance at the time of the bill becoming law and change, you will be required to take a similar plan.. If that is not available, you will be required to take the gov option!
• Page 22: Mandates audits of all employers that self-insure!
• Page 29: Admission: your health care will be rationed!
• Page 30: A government committee will decide what treatments and benefits you get (and, unlike an insurer, there will be no appeals process)
• Page 42: The "Health Choices Commissioner" will decide health benefits for you. You will have no choice. None.
• Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free healthcare services.
• Page 58: Every person will be issued a National ID Healthcard.
• Page 59: The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.
• Page 65: Taxpayers will subsidize all union retiree and community organizer health plans (example: SEIU, UAW and ACORN)
• Page 72: All private healthcare plans must conform to government rules to participate in a Healthcare Exchange.
• Page 84: All private healthcare plans must participate in the Healthcare Exchange (i.e., total government control of private plans)
• Page 91: Government mandates linguistic infrastructure for services; translation: illegal aliens
• Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and Americorps to sign up individuals for Government-run Health Care plan.
• Page 102: Those eligible for Medicaid will be automatically enrolled: you have no choice in the matter.
• Page 124: No company c an sue the government for price-fixing. No "judicial review" is permitted against the government monopoly. Put simply, private insurers will be crushed.
• Page 127: The AMA sold doctors out: the government will set wages.
• Page 145: An employer MUST auto-enroll employees into the government-run public plan. No alternatives.
• Page 126: Employers MUST pay healthcare bills for part-time employees AND their families.
• Page 149: Any employer with a payroll of $400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays an 8% tax on payroll <>BR • Page 150: Any employer with a payroll of $250K-400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays a 2 to 6% tax on payroll
• Page 167: Any individual who doesnt' have acceptable healthcare (according to the government) will be taxed 2.5% of income.
• Page 170: Any NON-RESIDENT alien is exempt from individual taxes (Americans will pay for them).
• Page 195: Officers and employees of Government Healthcare Bureaucracy will have access to ALL American financial and personal records.
• Page 203: "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax.." Yes, it really says that.
• Page 239: Bill will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors and the poor most affected."
âA C¢ Page 241: Doctors: no matter what speciality you have, you'll all be paid the same (thanks, AMA!)
• Page 253: Government sets value of doctors' time, their professional judgment, etc.
• Page 265: Government mandates and controls productivity for private healthcare industries.
• Page 268: Government regulates rental and purchase of power-driven wheelchairs.
• Page 272: Cancer patients: welcome to the wonderful world of rationing!
• Page 280: Hospitals will be penalized for what the government deems preventable re-admissions.
• Page 298: Doctors: if you treat a patient during an initial admission that results in a readmission, you will be penalized by the government.
• Page 317: Doctors: you are now prohibited for owning and investing in healthcare companies!
• Page 318: Prohibition on hospital expansion. Hospitals cannot expand without government approval.
• Page 321: Hospital expansion hinges on "community" input: in other words, yet another payoff for ACORN.
• Page 335: Government mandates establishment of outcome-based measures: i.e., rationing.
• Page 341: Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage Plans, HMOs, etc.
• Page 354: Government will restrict enrollment of SPECIAL NEEDS individuals.
• Page 379: More bureaucracy: Telehealth Advisory Committee (healthcare by phone).
• Page 425: More bureaucracy: Advance Care Planning Consult: Senior Citizens, assisted suicide, euthanasia?
• Page 425: Government will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney, etc. Mandatory. Appears to lock in estate taxes ahead of time.
• Page 425: Goverment provides approved list of end-of-life resources, guiding you in death.
• Page 427: Government mandates program that orders end-of-life treatment; government dictates how your life ends.
• Page 429: Advance Care Planning Consult will be used to dictate treatment as patient's health deteriorates.. This can include an ORDER for end-of-life plans. An ORDER from the GOVERNMENT.
• Page 430: Government will decide what level of treatments you may have at end-of-life.
• Page 469: Community-based Home Medical Services: more payoffs for ACORN.
• Page 472: Payments to Community-based organizations: more payoffs for ACORN.
• Page 489: Government will cover marriage and family therapy. Government intervenes in your marriage.
• Page 494: Government will cover mental health services: defining, creating and rationing those services.

 

On page 425 it says in black and white that EVERYONE on Social Security, (will include all Senior Citizens and SSI people) will go to MANDATORY counseling every 5 years to learn and to choose from ways to end your suffering (and your life).  Health care will be denied based on age.  500 Billion will be cut from Seniors healthcare.   The only way for that to happen is to drastically cut health care, the oldest and the sickest will be cut first.   Paying for your own care will not be an option. 
Now, CALL YOUR PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON !!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! 2 Tell them to read page 425 if they don't read anything else.  Surely  some of them have parents.

 

 
                   "Something a Friend Sent of Interest"
 
Subject:NOT JUST NOISE
 
Good Morning Friends,


     We are getting ready to start a new venture on Tuesday. Actually going back to work! If we were not doing this new venture for fun and travel my gut inclination would be why work at all? Why work in this fundamentally changed  environment.? Why go out and bust my ass in order to give away 50% of the effort to contribute to what appears to be a bankrupt system. Maybe that is a little strong? How about a "Severe Governmentally Challenged System???" I feel better now with the new terminology. 


     This blew me away yesterday. You may want to share these numbers with your children.


     Michele Bachman of Minnesota was talking before a very small group in the House yesterday.She is one IMPRESSIVE lady and I mean that. As she stated:


     According to an economic study done at the College of William and Mary the following statistics are what possibly be facing our children when they get to their peak earning years. What did my gut tell me about her presentation and her numbers? Simply that if the study is flawed by even 20% our children are in deep, deep trouble.


    According to Bachman here is what the study showed.


    For a person born in 1987 this is what they will have to contribute in order to support the ENTITLEMENT SYSTEM that is presently in place. The ages used were 62 for Social Security, and 65 for Medicare. 
Out of every dollar earned this is their future Liability.


Social Security:   25%
Medicare             25%
Medicaid D          5%
Fed. Income Tax 30% (You can tell the study is several years old)
State Income        6%
Total                   91%


Not included in these figures:


Health Insurance (as we know it today}
Sales Tax
Gas Tax
Property tax
And as she stated a general BREATHING TAX which may be on the horizon.


Also: That a year ago we had $850 billion dollars, (physical dollars) in circulation. In one year the Fed. had printed and put into circulation another ONE TRILLION dollars. As she stated the dollar's value has only been diminished by this expediential amount. That in one year the government has increased the total debt by 22% while the economy has shrunk in the neighborhood of 7%.


    Oh yes, almost forgot, Not in the figures is the potential for the Cap and Trade: $1,800.00 per household, and
additional  (as the politically correct term are now being called) "FEES" on health care UNKNOWN???? Can't say TAX anymore. 


    I never was very good at Algebra, but I did have a propensity for simple math. According to my calculations, if these numbers lets for arguments sake are close, it means that for every dollar my kids make they are going to be twelve cents in the hole. Can this work??? HMM?


    I wonder what this is going to do to the Housing, Banking, and Car industry? 


    AND WE WANT TO LET THESE MONKEYS TAKE OVER ANOTHER 16% OF OUR ECONOMY? I think it would be wiser and cheaper to buy them all a football and ???? Never mind.


   One last fact she pointed out, and I think there is some truth to this.
Whenever the government gives us the estimated cost of a program it is going to be flawed.
When she says flawed, history has shown the estimates to traditionally be skewed by SEVEN to FOURTEEN times the original estimate. As she stated. Never in the history of our modern government has a program actually come in LESS than the original estimate. So I took this as a negative? 


    What is the bottom line??  This is simply unsustainable. Changes have to be made. not NOISE, but concrete functional changes. Let's set these Monkeys free?


     Have a great weekend and keep the faith!




   B.
         "Thank you all for taking the time to read this"

You are right we do need heath care, for OUR citizens! Not what this socialist is pushing in our faces, it's been tryed before and failed to pass!

Gypsey

That was some post you had there, some time to read.

That is unbelievable, for sure.