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My guy went to a bachelor party for his best friend a couple years ago, and I JUST found out that he spent almost two hours in the VIP area (not in the Champagne Room) with just one girl dancing for him and then sitting there talking and drinking with him. When I asked him why he spent so much time with one of the strippers as opposed to many, he said that they "hit it off". He said most guys DO spend as much time as they can with one stripper because then they don't have a bunch of girls coming up to them every few minutes asking them if they want a dance. I'm not sure I buy this. I don't know, but do men really have a stripper in a club sit there with them for a few minutes between dances and alternate dancing with talking? Do men really say or feel that they have "hit it off" with a stripper in a club? To me it seems like sitting and having a personal conversation with a woman who is then rubbing her boobs all over the guy's face and grinding in his lap is cheating. I thought lap dances were supposed to be a "cheap thrill", not come with conversation and a two hour talking and dancing session. Can someone enlighten me here?


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Surrender.  Surrender.  But don't give yourself away . . . .

   ~ Cheap Trick ~

You need to have a very calm conversation where you tell him that you can deal with mistakes (especially those where he probably had too much to drink) but that as a man he needs to be honest and take responsibility for his actions.  Saying the words out loud are the hard part.  You can convince yourself that nothing really happened in your own head.  But when you have to face someone you love and tell them bad things about yourself, the that is really hard.  He has been trying though ~ little bits at a time.  He needs to understand that the lying is an engagement breaker.  If you fell that strongly about the strip clubs, then that should be an engagement breaker too.  He needs to understand that trust is the most important thing in a marriage and that once it is broken, it can take years, if ever, to get it back.  He needs to understand that you are doubting his honesty now and that you are afraid to commit to someone that hides their truths from the one they love.  Maybe the thought of losing you will make him realize that he needs to grow up, and fast!!!

I wish you nothing but the best.  I hope you guys can work this out.


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I think that it sounds like your fiance knows that he messed up really bad in that first year and was keeping it from you not because he wanted to lie, but because he loves you and wanted to protect you. Under normal circumstances, I would agree with you and be just as angry about the lies, but it seems to me that he really cares about you. He clearly feels guilty about what he has done and hopefully if you make it clear to him that you do not want any more lies or strippers if you are going to last, then he will respect you enough to be completely honest. Go with your heart and talk to him about your feelings. As long as you are honest with him, he should be also.


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Thank you for your insight. I struggle with this. He had some anger issues that he went to counseling for shortly after these incidents and stayed in it for 2 years. He says he realized in counseling that he couldn't just go out and do things that would betray me and then lie about it, and that he made a decision that he'd be a stand up guy. It bothered him greatly that he broke a prmise twice to me, because he is not the type to break promises, and usually won't make a promise if he thinks he can't keep it. The hard part is that he never came clean on his own, I had to catch him and find out through other sources that he had had the lap dances, that he gave the stripper our address and told her to write him for advice on a problem she spoke with him about that night (he was far more intimate with her than I would care for--apparently they talked and she danced for him for about two hours, which is why I think there could be more), then two months later he turned around and went to a strip club after we had fought. Then to lie about each time I have asked him and lie right to my face? He could have come clean at any time and erased all doubt. I do think most of this was in the first year of our relationship, but I also think that he owed it to himself and to me to come clean about it once he realized he screwed up. He's admitted that he avoided telling me NOT because he wanted to protect me, but because he didn't want to have to admit he was "wrong".

Thanks again for the advice. I am really struggling with whether I can trust him to keep his promises to me and if he does break them, to trust him to come clean so I don't find out years later and then we have to get over a lie AND whatever he did. Our wedding is in 4 months!


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Live simply, love generously and  care deeply.

 

I feel that if you married this man, you are going to have a lot of trust issues.  He is not honest with you.  If I were you, I would not go through with the wedding.  You need to follow your gut feelings.  You know in your heart that your marriage is not going to last.  You cannot change his behavior, that's the way he is.  That's why it good to have longer engagements because it gives the couple to know what kind of person he/she is getting married to.

    You need to find a man who is honest and not into playing games.


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Well he probably is afraid of  your reaction sure he wouldnt leave you. Maybe you shouldn't be so strict about him going to the club. As long as he doesnt do it all the time. Don't let the past eat you up will ruined your relationship just move on and sure things  will work its way out. Once you have  a family strip clubs will not even be on either of your  minds.


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