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How Does Israel Define Victory In Gaza?

Israel's war with Gaza-based Hamas is a faithful expression of its broader dilemma with militant Islam. That dilemma is being played out against the backdrop of Israel's complex relations with a troubled Arab world.

As with Hizbullah in Lebanon in the summer of 2006, Israel is now fighting a non-state actor, backed by Iran and operating out of a sovereign no-man's land or "black hole" from which Israel had previously withdrawn unilaterally.

Both the 2005 Gaza withdrawal and the current fighting reflect Israel's military problem: none of the classic strategies for dealing with a military enemy seem to work. Occupation, removal of occupation, deterrence, tit-for-tat punishment, economic blockade-all have failed.

The enemy welcomes extreme hardship and loss of life ("martyrdom") and seemingly would welcome reoccupation. Anything that highlights Gazans' human suffering sells well in the Arab world and among human rights activists in the West. Any opportunity to wage a war of attrition against Israelis - soldiers and civilians, there is no difference in militant Islamist eyes - drives home the militant Islamist message that the Zionist enterprise is doomed.

The leadership in Israel's Sunni Arab state neighbors is torn among its sympathy for the plight of Palestinians, its anger with the militant Islamists, its fear of Iran and its concern lest the Arab masses support Hamas, Hizbullah and Iran.

The regime in Egypt, in particular, is being targeted by Iran because it (correctly) blames Hamas for this conflict and because of its silent complicity with Israel in keeping the Rafah crossing closed.

Silent, because the entire Arab state system, which to its credit has agreed to normalize relations with Israel once peace is achieved, appears to be too weak to take serious action against the Islamist threat.

The ghoulish nature of the militant Islamist campaign was perhaps best illustrated a few days ago when a suicide bomber in Iraq targeted an anti-Israel protest there.

The non-Islamist psyche is hard put to grasp what is going on. That's why Israel's official war aim of punishing Hamas in order "to bring about an improved and more stable security situation for residents of southern Israel over the long term" is probably based on faulty logic.

Hamas might accept these terms under duress, but not sincerely or for any length of time.

Hence, however successful from Israel's standpoint the current ground offensive is in Gaza, in its search for longer-lasting remedies Israel is once again, as in 2006, reaching out to the international community. It wants to see some sort of international force deployed as part of a solution to keep Hamas from rearming.

Hizbullah's reluctance thus far to join the fray and open up a second Islamist front against Israel by firing rockets over the heads of UNIFIL, offers silent testimony to the efficacy of the arrangements instituted in southern Lebanon through UN Security Council Resolution 1701.

But Hizbullah's silence also apparently reflects its aspiration not to spoil its chances of becoming the dominant political power in Lebanon in next May's elections. Herein lies a warning for Israel and its neighbors, including the Fatah leadership in the West Bank.

Hizbullah parlayed its survival in the 2006 war into a political victory in Lebanon, assisted by Qatari mediation (and bribes).

One political solution to the current Gaza conflict offered by Egypt, Qatar and Fatah is renewal of Hamas-PLO unity talks.

If Hamas, riding on a wave of Palestinian and broader Arab sympathy, agrees to return to such talks, it is important both for Israel and the moderate Arab leadership that it not be allowed to exploit them to ride to power in the West Bank as well.

Few Israelis and Arabs hold out the hope that Operation Cast Lead will actually lead to the elimination of Hamas, whose true leadership is in Damascus and whose Palestinian supporters easily number in the hundreds of thousands.

If Hamas' Gaza-based leadership and armed cadres can be significantly weakened and a blow struck against one of Iran's two Mediterranean bases, this operation will have to be considered a moderate success but not a decisive victory.


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imagine a mind free of weakness and figments of our imagination...imagine a mind free of stress and manipulation...Imagine our full potential when we shread the chains of deitys and gods alike...Only then will we empower our self and Open a new door away from death , decay and wrong doing, Let us unite as one and push forth towards the stars let us make new friends and love different species. why not? cause your still bound by the chains of god.

omgosh religion KILLS! lets get rid of religion lol

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I'm STILL waiting for Gilad Shalit to come home!!

Go Israel!

Victory in Gaza will be achieved when the rockets stop falling in Israel and Hamas terrorists and terrorist supporters are killed.

God bless the IDF and the people living in Israel.

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 To all those who were genuine in their concern for the hundreds of innocent people who were dying at the hands of these criminals.  Well the latest update the zionist country of isreal began their self defense aggression today with
"white phosphorus" in their  bombs,on the defenseless people of Gaza  
HIGHLIGHTS: White phosphorus is a waxy solid which burns easily and is used in chemical manufacturing and smoke munitions. Exposure to white phosphorus may cause burns and irritation, liver, kidney, heart, lung, or bone damage, and death. White phosphorus has been illegal by the United Nations 
 
The zionist country of isreal has achieved the humanitarian respect of many readers for the leaflets that they drop before they bomb the houses, hospitals, schools, and everything else, well today announced  on BBC in all European Media the leaflets today dropped in the city of Rafah asked all the people to leave Rafa  they will flatten the city,   if anyone has an idea of the boundaries of Rafa it is in a triangle,  one side isreal proper, and other side Egypt but the borders are closed, the other side is the sea, the people have no place to go. 
United Nations relieve organization have stopped all help to Gaza because isreali forces continue to bomb the UN trucks of blood drugs and food, 2 workers died today, 21 to date.
If isreali claims  the people of Gaza are Hamas so for they must be all killed in case freedom fighters are hiding behind them ,then why have all agriculture farmland been bombed and burned down with the phosphorus, are the plants  and trees Hamas also?
We as Americans have the rights and obligation to insist our elected officials listen to us we must stand up.

Its obvious isreal has no MORAL conscious no feelings of life or death, their power is out of hand.  They remind us Americans constantly of Hitler and the nazi's  but the only difference between what was done to them and what they are  now doing to the Palestine:  Genocide of Gaza.... they die with their clothes on!!!!!
Where as Hitler made them strip, the only only difference, so scary what's next?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

 
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YOU ARE WHAT YOU ARE AND NOBODY WILL AGREE WITH YOU Bob

THOUSANDS ALL OVER AMERICA AND EUROPE STANDING WITH ISRAEL.

YOU ABANDONED YOUR ORIGINAL SITE AND TRIED TO GET SOMETHING GOING HERE, GO BACK AND SEE WHERE YOU WERE DISPOSED OF, SHOT DOWN, EXTERMINATED FOR A REASON.

GO TO GAZA, STAND WITH YOUR HAMAS, HEZBOLLAH, AL QUEDA, BEN LADEN, MUHAJIDEEN, TALIBAN WE KNOW WHO AND WHAT YOU ARE, WE HAVE LAID THE ARGUMENTS ON YOUR TABLE AND YOU RAN, YOU RAN COWARD FROM YOU ORIGINAL POST AND THOUGHT THE ANSWERS WOULD BE DIFFERENT AND THEY ARE NOT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTGbP55HGi8&feature=related

Children of Hamas

http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=7677

Correction those for Israel now coming out all over world this site covers Trafalga Square and their pro-Israel rally.  15,000 for Israel.  International news now thousands coming out for Israel.  8,000 in NYC where Sentor Schumer, Congressman King many others said Israel right on.

http://atlasshrugs2000typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/01/rare-video-hama.html

Hamas killing Palistinians entire wedding party and more look last part if does not come up rare-video-hama.html. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHhs9.hSmbu

Hamas booby traps school and zoo.  

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024358.php

Hamas in America take a look.   Most of these will pull from this media.  They are worth watching.

You are definately Hamas and Terrorist material, a girlie boy, a disgrace to America. 

Last part of the video site Hamas killing is 01/rare-video- hama.html

Look at it if you have the well we know what you do not have, SCHMECLE.   

JENNY'S SITE "ISRAEL STRIKES GAZA"  he had tons of responses if any of you have time take a look and read.  You will know exactly what I am talking about.

 
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Yadja, from a Marine you are hot!

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My father was a Marine, I love all you guys.  I am in ANRC, I served this war and Shield/Storm.  I have served since 1988.

I would stand with you and for you anyday. 

I think I am blushing.

Thank you.

YadjaEmbarassed

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How dare you speak to me like that i was born here not like you boater.  Now this is your writing not like the other comment, you still suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Was sharon the terrorist one of your boyfriends?

 
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BABY KILLER ...............................

HEY isreali HOW MANY KIDS DID YOU KILL TODAY??????

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