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These questions answer what the root of the actual problems in America really are.
(The answers are more convincing when you find them yourself, instead of hearing my opinion)

1. Is the Federal Reserve part of the US Government, or a privately owned entity?
2. What is the full history of how was the Federal Reserve established, going back to Jekyll Island?
3. Why does the US Gov't borrow money from the Fed and pay interest, when it had the right to print it's own currency to begin with?

4. Is the money from the Federal Reserve backed by anything that has actual value such as gold or silver, or is it worthless paper?
5. Are there links between the Federal Reserve and the Council on Foreign Relations ?
6. Is the CFR a  US Governmental body, or an independent organization?
7. What is the goal of the CFR, as quoted by Carroll Quigley and others?
8. Who are some of the high profile members of the CFR? (politicians, business tycoons, and media moguls)
9. What are the connections between the CFR,the RIIA? (Royal Institute of International Affairs ), Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg Group, Club of Rome, and the United Nations?

10.What is the "Pilgrims Society"? (the 'establishment' or 'illuminati')

Bonus question: Do all of these groups tie together (with others) in the developing one-world governmental and economic system?


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Live free, be safe, and learn.  Knowledge is the key to everything.

Gee Bart.  Aren't you afraid that someone might actually have to learn something that contradicts Obama's policy?

Posted 2009-02-01T14:29:54Z
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Read it again, I said nothing of Obama, Bush, any other president nor their parties.   This is not an attempt to have my opinion heard, these are issues that we all, democrats or republicans, should become aware of, then act as we feel.

Just start by researching who wrote the Federal Reserve Act and how it was passed.   That should be enough to make anyone wonder about what the Fed is really about.

Posted 2009-02-02T04:44:17Z
 
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Live free, be safe, and learn.  Knowledge is the key to everything.

Bart, I wasn't trying to start something ugly here.  Just trying to ignite a good thread that might reach into the minds of those who are not aware.

The answer to your first question is:

The Federal Reserve System is the central banking system of the US.  Created in 1913 by the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act.

What I find odd is that it was created in response to the "panic of 1907" and has listed as its function "to address the problem of banking paincs."

I mentioned Obama because he is the current President.  Truthfully, in my humble opinion, Reagan was the only president who performed the job to which he was elected, in my lifetime.  And, as the media seems to be picking up on, he is running his office much like Carter.

When I read through your questions the first time I felt like you are someone who wants people to learn and understand for themselves the in's and out's of our government.  I still believe you have more than private research as your goal.  Anyone who does the research will get a glimpse of our government workings.  For me, I see the current "stimulus" compared with the Federal Reserve and balanced with the fiscal deficent creating a huge debt and the ugly specter of inflation.

Posted 2009-02-03T01:09:02Z
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Jerry, sorry I sounded short, and I thank you for a pleasant response.   I do hope that people will do their own research and judge for themselves, but these are topics that are too close to the conspiracy talk that no one wants to listen to.  Unfortunately I have found enough documented evidence to convince me that there is something very insidious going on behind our government, but that is just me, and I by no means claim to be an expert, or even right for that matter.  I actually hope that these suspicions turn out to be wrong...  

I invited anyone interested to research these few items, which are some of the high points of what bothers me and many others, to see if they find a path of corruption and deceit that is not widely known.  I'll share some quick bits of what I have found on the Federal Reserve Act, and any and all can go from there if they so choose. 

A number of bankers boarded a private rail car of Sen. Aldrich for a duck hunting trip to Jekyll Island, Ga.  (Aldrich's daughter married a Rockefeller) The trip and their meetings were very private and the members concealed their identies to an extent, and only used first names.  The bill that was drawn up eventually passed as the Federal Reserve Act, careful not to refer to it as being a 'central bank' due to widespread opposition.  Remember that the bill was drawn up by bankers, not congressmen.  The Act was passed by Congress in slick & quick fashion just before Christmas vacation, when some of the most vocal (Republican) opponents to the bill had already left Washington, and Woodrow Wilson, (being advised by EM 'Colonel' House, CFR founder and Rockefeller insider), quickly signed the act into law.  I have read that Wilson's signing was to fulfill a promise he had made for obtaining contributions to his recent presidential campaign.  Much later, Wilson was reported to have said "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."

So we went from having a government that had control of the issuing of gold backed currency and had control to set the monetary policy, and turned it over to the banking cartel, which loaned money to the government and charged interest on that loan.  We have been in debt ever since, because it is a system designed to create perpetual debt.  On top of an unpayable debt, the money loaned to the government is not backed by anything of value.  Money is printed essentially out of thin air, with no backing value such as gold or silver, which creates inflation and devalues every dollar already in circulation.  Then they developed 'fractional reserve banking', which further devalued the dollar and made the bankers even richer.   It is not a system designed to benefit the country or its citizens, only the banking establishment behind the Fed.

A good search to find this information is Jekyll Island Federal Reserve Act.  

Regarding what you had found odd about the panic of 1907, there were many accusations that the people behind the Fed, namely JP Morgan, were the same people that had actually caused the panics, which became the reason(s) for the creation of the Fed, just as they had planned.   It is interesting reading.

good short article - http://hubpages.com/hub/Federal_Reserve_Act

I found the documentary by Aaron Russo "America: Freedom to Fascism" to be very enlightening.   It addresses the Fed and income tax consitiutionality.  Its on youtube if you're interested.

I hope that this is found to be informative, even with the brief explanations.

take care Jerry

Posted 2009-02-03T04:41:00Z
 
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Live free, be safe, and learn.  Knowledge is the key to everything.

Hmm, very interesting.  Yes, the bankers wrote most of the bill, I tend to believe bankers would know more about savings and loans than Congressmen.  Also true that banks thrive on debt.  Loans are not needed by people with capital enough to proceed with their venture.

I happen to admire Rockefeller.  He ventured into a little know field, at the time, and developed Standard Oil.  He became our, America's, first Billionaire.  He did it without government interference and by working hard.

There are lots of interesting bits about our History.  I have to admit I wasn't a very good student of history, but it has become very informative as I age.  "Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat its mistakes."  Be tooted if it isn't so!

One of my passions is leaders who have no military experience telling generals how to fight a war.  That sets me on edge very quickly.

As for what I found odd.  It was created in response to the "panic of 1907" and has listed as its function "to address the problem of banking panics." Created in response to, not because of.  I suppose that would be the same thing, but somehow I find myself denying that it is.  Our current situation could be blamed on over lending.  We know Carter ordered "Fannie Mae" to loan more with less backing.  Clinton followed on that and loosened restrictions further.  Loan companies seem to make more money "selling" loans to other agencies.  (Last time I looked at my credit I learned that my card had been traded more than 6 times.  It was still the same card, and the name of the credit company didn't change, but it made it look like I owed a bunch of credit companies.  The representative explained what had happened and revealed I have a pretty good score.)  In this case, everyone was losing money because no one was paying and they couldn't collect. 

I do not believe our representatives in government know much about banking or they would not force loosening of restrictions in such a manner.  I'm pretty sure a bank would not pass out money to get people to make deposits either.

There may be a conspiracy by banks to hold the power and prosperity of a nation.  But, their prosperity depends on our growth and development of new industry and businesses.

Posted 2009-02-06T00:57:46Z
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I never was much of a history student myself, but I have tried to search out and forward what I have found to be truthful and proven, and discard the questionable with the simply outrageous.

It is known that the Fed was responsible for the Great Depression, by inflating the money supply in the years before, then deflating the money suppy by 1/3 later.   They were accused of intentionally doing this to stimulate the economy, having everyone borrowing money to buy farms, homes, and build businesses, then deflated in order to cause default on loans and smaller banks to fail.  Then, the larger banks and the people behind them came in and bought up everything for pennies on the dollar.  

"The Federal Reserve System had been established to prevent what actually happened. It was set up to avoid a situation in which you would have to close down banks, in which you would have a banking crisis. And yet, under the Federal Reserve System, you had the worst banking crisis in the history of the United States. There's no other example I can think of, of a government measure which produced so clearly the opposite of the results that were intended."  - Milton Friedman

Last year, before our current economic crisis really got rolling downhill, Bernanke said that the depression was caused by the Fed, due to bad policy and bad decision making, and "we did it, we're very sorry, and we won't do it again".  Looking back, that was very interesting timing to make a statement like that.   Maybe 'suspicious' would be a better word instead of 'interesting', but thats just me.

Moving on to the CFR, it was developed by Rockefeller, Morgan, Warbug, etc.   In 1917, Morgan interests purchased 25 of the most influential newspapers in order to effectively control the news released to the public.  From the Congressional Record:    http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/Morgan-Buys-Newspapers9feb17.htm

David Rockefeller, the world's head cheerleader for globalism is quoted as saying,

“We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the light of publicity during those years. But now the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government."   David Rockefeller at the 1991 Bilderberg meeting in Germany.

Other notable CFR quotes:

The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England ... (and) ...believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years, and was permitted in the early 1960's to examine its papers and secret records. … I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known. - Carroll Quigley

The powers of financial capitalism had (a) far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world. - Carroll Quigley

The ultimate aim of the Council on Foreign Relations … is … to create a one-world socialist system and make the United States an official part of it. - Dan Smoot

The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government. - Rear Admiral Chester Ward

We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent. - Paul Warburg

more quotes at - http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quotes_about/cfr

Some of the most notable past and present CFR members.  Rockefeller Family, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Dick Cheney, Condi Rice, Donald Rumsfeld, Michelle Obama, John McCain, Henry Paulson, Zbig Brzezinski, most 2008 presidential candidates, Alan Greenspan, Al Gore, Ruth Ginsberg, Tom Brokaw, Brian Williams, Barbara Walters, many of Bush's and Obama's cabinet memebers...   you get the idea.

These are just a few things to put in a small space.  I encourage everyone to research this fully.   The CFR is a private organization, a "think tank", that they say 'does not influence government or its policies'.   Why is it so filled up with the people that are the who's who in New York and Washington, and with so many that are currently involved in the decision making levels of the government, business, and media?

VERY unsettling to me.

Posted 2009-02-06T15:36:18Z

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