Does God exist?

Hi, 

It is true that it's a matter of belief but what's important to understand is that IT HAS TO BE SO. Kierkegaard, the Danish philosopher wrote that if god was a huge strange bird, sitting in the town square, crowing away, no doubt everyone would believe in him. But that sentence isn't correct for then there wouldn't be any need for belief. It would simply be knowledge. There is a huge gap between things that we know and things we believe. Belief starts where knowledge ends and the whole power of the religious experience is in the belief in something that there is no certainty it exists.

This is why I think you can choose to believe or not but logic has nothing to do with it. If you go around looking for logical extrapolations, as did certain people in their search for proof (such as the ontological argument), you are bound to return empty handed.

Hey, thats just what I think. 

"who is God? where is God?"
 
The answers to those two questions depend upon what religious faith you accept as valid -- and there are many to choose from!

   IMHO

   1. God created/caused our spirits (entities) along with the universe to come into being. God established the purpose for it all but doesn't involve Its self in the continuance or activities of same.

   2. "Sin" is man's concept and is utilized by men to control other men. The human caused "negative events" that take place are circumstances that are considered by us in the non-life experience between incarnations as we evaluate the successes and failures we made as we attempted to achieve our goals during our incarnations.

   3. The Bible (and similar religious books) is a necessary concoction created by man to control man and his environment. It was necessary because mankind, in its infancy, did not have the medical and technological knowledge to conquer and understand its environment so had to be controlled by superstitions which were found to save lives and further the survivability of the various human societies.

   
   Why did God make the world?
   

   IMHO, God diversified Itself into Its many parts and charged those parts (entities) to go forth and acquire knowledge and experience and to then return to the Oneness of God.

   The entities caused the creation of the universe and everything therein and individually choose to inhabit the physical bodies.

   The entities may incarnate/reincarnate many times before gravitating back into the Oneness of God.
   

   SPECULATIONS

   
   Speculation: 1 Is God necessary?

   Yes!

   There has to be a Source from which the "big bang" sprang forth Creating the universe.

   
   Speculation: 2 What is God?

   God is the ultimate Cause.

   God is the Creative Entity, Energy or Force from which all is derived.

   
   Speculation: 3 Where is God?

   God is in a state of awareness that is outside the universe.

   God has morphed part of Itself into those entities (spirits) that inhabit the universe and the physical bodies within.

   
   Speculation: 4 Why is God?

   God Is because God Is.

   God is eternal, existing independent of time or the universe.

   
   Speculation: 5 Is God concerned?

   No!

   God is not concerned with the daily functioning of the universe or matters within it. That is our domain and subject to our whim.

   
   Speculation: 6 What are we?

   We are the spirits (entities) of God.

   God morphed into Us and we continue to create according to God's purpose.

   Our physical bodies are simply the means we use to experience and function in the physical dimension.

   
   Speculation: 7 Why are we?

   We are for the purpose of gaining knowledge and experience.

   In the end, we gravitate back into the Oneness of God allowing for the fulfillment of God.

   
   Speculation: 8 Evolution

   Evolution is simply a tool of Creation.

   The entities often influence the direction of evolution along desired paths.

   
   From my chosen path i stray,
   Yet my God ne'er turns away;
   For i have learned -- and understand,
   That where God is -- is where i am!

I understand your line of thought. One can stick to the paradigm of "Seeing is believing" and there is no need to stir from that way of thinking. That's what most people do, and it's fine.

I believe that when you start talking about spiritual issues sometimes it is necessary to use other trends of thought. That is it why I stated that it's a matter of choice for there is no logic to it.

Hi,

I have found no rational reason to think such a thing exists.

Under and behind all outward appearances or manifestations, there must always be a Substantial Reality. This is the Law. Man considering the Universe, of which he is a unit, sees nothing but change in matter, forces, and mental states. He sees that nothing really IS, but that everything is BECOMING and Changing. Nothing stands still- everything is being born, growing, dying- the very instant a thing reaches its height, it begins to decline- the law of rythm is in constant operation-there is no reality, enduring quality, fixity, or substantiality in anything- nothing is permanent but Change. He sees all things evolving from other things, and resolving into other things- a constant action and reaction; inflow and outflow; building up and tearing down; creation and destruction; birth, growth, and death. Nothing endures but Change. And if he be a thinking man, he realizes that all of these changing things must be outward appearances or manifestations of some Underlying Power- some Substantial Reality. All thinkers, in all lands and at all times, have assumed the necessity for postulating the existance of this Substantial Reality. All philosophies worthy of the name have been based on this thought. Men have given this Substantial Reality many names- some have called it by the term of Deity; others have called it the infinite and eternal energy; others have called it God- but all have acknowledged its existance. It is self evident- it needs no argument.

For what it's worth if anything, I find that a creative cosmic force(s) might exist, but that this is about as far as we can go without assuming too much and suffocating inside a severely limited anthropocentric perspective. It seems more probable that something caused the Big Bang than that it caused itself, although I do not personally rule out that possibility.

REASON

I am in control of parts of my body.
Something else or some other I controls the rest, like my breath, heartbeat, veins so much.
Am I really in control? I say NO. So what is controlling everything besides me?
The same force or entity or power controls.
I have never been in control.
At the same time I must have been in control.
We have taken over the planet, bullied other animals.
In fact we have
even caged them, what gives us this right?
Are we abusing our power or does the game of the survival of the fittest Carry on?
I say we are abusing our power.

This ridiculous precision of revolution, rotation of the earth,

moon and planets for thousands and thousands of years.
Something if not someone has assembled all this.
Based on this accuracy we invented the clock.
 
 
What has the capacity to play with or organize such gigantic spheres?
Our solar system is just a small part in this cosmos.
God knows for how many generations this is all going on.
 
 
We are connected together as the human species.
Deeper than that blood relationship and friendship.
Deeper the light, love, super intelligent, super entity
What we term as God.

 
From Ponder Awhile by Mohit:K:Misra