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Charm is a way of getting the answer yes without having asked any clear question.

No God or Know God?

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An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem Science has with God, The Almighty..

He asks one of his new students to stand and.....

Prof: So you believe in God?

Student: Absolutely, sir.

Prof: Is God good?

Student: Sure.

Prof: Is God all-powerful?

Student: Yes.

Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him.

Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't.. How is this God good then? Hmm? (Student is silent.)

Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fellow. Is God good?

Student: Yes.

Prof: Is Satan good?

Student: No.

Prof: Where does Satan come from?

Student: From...God.. .

Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?

Student: Yes.

Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?

Student: Yes.

Prof: So who created evil?

(Student does not answer.)


Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?

Student: Yes, sir.

Prof: So, who created them?

(Student has no answer.)

Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?

Student: No, sir.

Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?

Student: No, sir.

Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?

Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.

Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?

Student: Yes.

Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?

Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.

Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.

Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

Prof: Yes.

Student: And is there such a thing as cold?

Prof: Yes.

Student: No sir. There isn't.

(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)

Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat,

But we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold.

Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.

(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)

Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?

Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?

Student: You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light....But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't.

If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?

Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?

Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.

Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?

Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure.

Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.

To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?

Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.

Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)

Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavour, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?

(The class is in uproar.)

Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain?

(The class breaks out into laughter.)

Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir.

With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable. )

Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.

Student: That is it sir... The link between man & god is FAITH.

That is all that keeps things moving & alive....... ......... ..

So, can you tell me what is your opinion about the story?Smile


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Wow, I think this is amazing, I have never heard this story, is it true - were you there?  I would love to be as smart as that student, or to have heard them say those things.

I think the logic is brilliant.  I believe in God and I had huge problems with what the Professor was saying when I first started reading but I would never have come up with such a clever way to prove him wrong!

thanks for sharing this!  What do you think?

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Tongue out

Charm is a way of getting the answer yes without having asked any clear question.

Well, thanx for answer. You may right the story is true in its self. Did you really like the morale of story? Actually, the conversation between Professor and Student depicts the two extremes of humanity, belief, persona, thoughts and perceptions.Destiny Group

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I loved it.  People expect proof from us about God and yet they accept theories from scientists, and historians without ever asking for proof.  Simple if we evolved from monkies, why are there still monkies..........Those scientist and historians are dead.  If they knew so much..........why are they not still living?

God always has been and always will be, he is immortal, as his Son Jesus is immortal, the angels are immortal. 

Satan is immortal....that is why he will burn in the Eternal Lake of Fire. 

God does not have to be explained.  He requires no explanation.  He just is and are not we lucky he is a good God and loves us so much that he gave us the freewill to choose good or evil.  God being good, or course.  The evil is the devil.

He could have made us robots, but he wanted more from us than that.  He wants our unconditional love for him and his only Son, Jesus.

 

I still want to know , Who made God?

I'm sure it wasn't this student. Nor was it a magician, or is it all an illusion? Just an illusion that we are alive, The dinsaurs died and then we eventually came along, to find their remains. Jesus should have told us where to find them, then maybe we would have undestood more about them sooner. Please tell me where and when God was made. I believe. I believe we exist , but why and what for . Doesn't  compute in google. War is the creator of many things but war did not create man, so who did? and who created the creator?

 
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 Be Thankful

 Speak softly

 Let your love shine...

God is not a "who" like you and I. 

 We refer to God as "Him" and that gives us a picture of ourselves, our human selves, but God is not that.  We cannot describe God accurately for our finite minds because God is beyond even our imaginations.  It is enough to know that we know, like you said, you know that you exist, but don't yet know why. 

The more you question and think and read on your journey to understand, the richer your life will become.  When we are at the beginning of this journey, when we are children in faith, we need to use words to which we can relate, but as we grow, we come to re-cognize, re-think, and realize that we use the word god to explain the unexplainable.

  I have used this phrase before, but in this instance I want to use it again: Asking mankind to explain God would be like asking an ant to explain the internet. 

 The universe is more vast than what we have been able to realize at this point in time. And the more we learn about it and our own little world, the more we see divinity at work.  There is a pattern that is consistant in everything. The cells of our bodies, the shells in the sea, the stars in the sky all have the same unique structure.  That is divine in my opinion.

 No one created God.  God Is.  That is sufficient for me.  I hope you have many many great encounters with Divine Love, which is what God is.  Keep your mind and heart open.  God Bless you. njoy

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