Hello Richard, hey did you get a chance to call the guys at It is Killmer's Kountry Store. They seemed very helpful and if they don't know might be able to hook you up with a name and number of somebody else. Their number again was 928-425-0700. They are very nice and helpful. They stock a full assortment of baits incluing waterdogs, minnows, several kinds of worms and many other choices.
