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Economy Worsening Since Inaugeration Despite Obama's Attempts ?

President Barack Obama offered his domestic-policy proposals as a "break from a troubled past." But the economic outlook now is more troubled than it was even in January, despite Obama's bold rhetoric and commitment of more trillions of dollars.

And while his personal popularity remains high, some economists and lawmakers are beginning to question whether Obama's agenda of increased government activism is helping, or hurting, by sowing uncertainty among businesses, investors and consumers that could prolong the recession.

Although the administration likes to say it "inherited" the recession and trillion-dollar deficits, the economic wreckage has worsened on Obama's still-young watch.

Every day, the economy is becoming more and more an Obama economy.

More than 4 million jobs have been lost since the recession began in December 2007 — roughly half in the past three months.

Stocks have tumbled to levels not seen since 1997. They are down more than 50 percent from their 2007 highs and 20 percent since Obama's inauguration.

The president's suggestion that it was a good time for investors with "a long-term perspective" to buy stocks may have been intended to help lift battered markets. But a big sell-off followed.

Presidents usually don't talk about the stock market. But the dynamics are different now.

A higher percentage of people have more direct exposure to stocks — including through 401(k) and other retirement plans — than ever.

So a tumbling stock market is adding to the national angst as households see the value of their investments and homes plunge as job losses keep rising.

Some once mighty companies such as General Motors and Citigroup are little more than penny stocks.

Many health care stocks are down because of fears of new government restrictions and mandates as part a health care overhaul. Private student loan providers were pounded because of the increased government lending role proposed by Obama. Industries that use oil and other carbon-based fuels are being shunned, apparently in part because of Obama's proposal for fees on greenhouse-gas polluters.

Makers of heavy road-building and other construction equipment have taken a hit, partly because of expectations of fewer public works jobs here and globally than first anticipated.

"We've got a lot of scared investors and business people. I think the uncertainty is a real killer here," said Chris Edwards, director of fiscal policy for the libertarian Cato Institute.

Some Democrats, worried over where Obama is headed, are suggesting he has yet to match his call for "bold action and big ideas" with deeds.

In particular, they point to bumpy efforts to fix the financial system under Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner.

Obama may have contributed to the national anxiety by first warning of "catastrophe" if his stimulus plan was not passed and in setting high expectations for Geithner. Instead, Geithner's public performance has been halting and he's been challenged by lawmakers of both parties.

Republicans and even some top Democrats, including Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, have questioned the wisdom of Obama's proposal to limit tax deductions for higher-income people on mortgage interest and charitable contributions.

Charities have strongly protested, saying times already are tough enough for them. The administration suggests it might back off that one.

Even White House claims that its policies will "create" or "save" 3.5 million jobs have been questioned by Democratic supporters.

"You created a situation where you cannot be wrong," the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, Montana Democrat Max Baucus, told Geithner last week.

"If the economy loses 2 million jobs over the next few years, you can say yes, but it would've lost 5.5 million jobs. If we create a million jobs, you can say, well, it would have lost 2.5 million jobs," Baucus said. "You've given yourself complete leverage where you cannot be wrong, because you can take any scenario and make yourself look correct."

Republicans assert that Obama's proposals, including the "cap and trade" fees on polluters to combat global warming, would raise taxes during a recession that could touch everyone. "Herbert Hoover tried it, and we all know where that led," says House Republican leader John Boehner of Ohio.

The administration argues its tax increases for the households earning over $250,000 a year and fees on carbon polluters contained in its budget won't kick in until 2011-2012, when it forecasts the economy will have fully recovered.

But even those assumptions are challenged as too rosy by many private forecasters and some Democratic lawmakers.

Many deficit hawks also worry that the trillions of federal dollars being doled out by the administration, Congress and the Federal Reserve could sow the seeds of inflation down the road, whether the measures succeed in taming the recession or not. The money includes Obama's $3.6 trillion budget and the $837 billion stimulus package he signed last month.

Polls show that Obama's personal approval ratings, generally holding in the high 60s, remain greater than support for his specific policies.

"He still has a fair amount of political capital, so the public is willing to cut him some slack and go along with him for a while," said pollster Andrew Kohut, director of the Pew Research Center. "But the public will have to get some sense that the kinds of things he's proposing are going to work, or are showing some signs that they are working."

Allan Sinai, chief global economist for Decision Economics, a Boston-area consulting firm, said the complexity and enormity of the crisis make it hard to solve.

"There's no way to get it all right, regardless of which president is making policy," Sinai said. "The problem is the sickness got too far. The actions taken, medicine applied, were mainly the wrong actions. So it's just worse, and it gets harder to deal with. At this stage, there is no easy answer, no easy way out. It's a question of how we fumble through."


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The road to nowhere is paved with good intentions.

Dear, sweet MarineReconDad, I have been watching you post these types of Questions for a long time now. You are very well informed of our Political State, and have many opinions and points of view. Reading what you've written here, I want to take this oppertunity to share with you another point of view, an aspect of our Times, our Government, and World Leaders that you may not be informed of... Please read this... it will only take you a few minutes. I believe this is the true State of our Nation right now. God, the one who is ultimately incharge, has had enough. In what I believe to be keeping on your Topic here, I think you will find these Scriptures very interesting and informative.... Moreso than your evening Paper.....

ISAIAH Chapter 30:1,33  "Woe to the obstinate children," declares the LORD, "to those who carry out plans that are not mine, forming an alliance, but not by my Spirit, heaping sin upon sin; who go down to Egypt's shade for refuge.  But Pharaoh's protection will be to your shame. Egypt's shade will bring you disgrace. Though they have officials in Zoan and their envoys have arrived in Hanes, everyone will be put to shame because of a people useless to them, who bring neither help nor advantage, but only shame and disgrace." 

ISAIAH 30:8 Go now, write it on a tablet for them, inscribe it on a scroll, that for the days to come it may be an ever lasting witness.  These are rebellious people, deceitful children, children unwilling to listen to the LORD's instruction.  They say to the seers, "See no more visions!" and to the prophets, "Give us no more visions of what is right!  Tell us pleasant things, prophesy illusions. Leave this way, get off this path, and stop confronting us with the Holy One of Israel!"

Therefore, this is what the Holy One of Israel says;  Because you have rejected this message, relied on oppression and depended on deceit, this sin will come for you like a high wall, cracked and bulging, that collapses suddenly, in an instant. It will break in pieces like pottery, shattered so mercilessly that amoung it's pieces not a fragment will be found for taking coals from a hearth or scooping water out of a cistern.

This is what the Sovereign LORD, the Holy One of Israel says;  "In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength, but you would have none of it.  You said, 'No, we will flee on horses.' Therefore you will flee!  You said, 'We will ride off on swift horses.'  Therefore your pursuers will be swift!  A thousand will flee at the threat of one; at the threat of five you will all flee away, till you are left like a flagstaff on a mountaintop, like a banner on a hill."

Yet the Lord longs to be gracious to you; He rises to show you compassion. For the LORD is a God of justice. Blessed are all who wait for Him! O people of Zion, who live in Jerusalem, (God's People) you will weep no more. How gracious He will be when you cry for help!  As soon as He hears, He will answer you.  Although the LORD gives you the bread of adversity and the water of affliction, your teachers will be hidden no more; with your own eyes you will see them.  Whether you turn to the right or to the left, your ears will hear a voice behind you, saying, "This is the way, walk in it."  Then you will defile your idols overlaid with silver and your images covered with gold; you will throw them away like a menstrual cloth and say to them, "Away with you!"

He will also send you rain for the seed you sow in the ground, and the food that comes from the land will be rich and plentiful. In that day your cattle will graze in broad meadows. The oxen and donkeys that work the soil will eat fodder and mash, spread out with fork and shovel.  In the day of great slaughter , when the towers fall, streams of water will flow on every high mountain and every lofty hill. The moon will shine like the sun, and the sun will be 7 times brighter, like the light of 7 full days, when the LORD binds up the bruises of His people and heals the wounds He inflicted.

See, the Name of the LORD comes from afar, with burning anger and dense clouds of smoke; His lips are full of wrath, and His tongue is a consuming fire. His breath is like a rushing torrent, rising up to the neck.  He shakes the Nations in the sieve of destruction; He places in the jaws of the people a bit that leads them astray. And you will sing as on the night you celebrated a holy festival; your hearts will rejoice as when people go up with flutes to the mountain of the LORD, to the Rock of Israel.

The LORD will cause men to hear His majestic voice and will make them see His arm coming down with raging anger and consuming fire, with cloud burst, thunderstorm and hail. The voice of the LORD will shatter Assyria; with His scepter He will strike them down. Every stroke the LORD lays on them with His punishing rod will be to the music of tambourines and harps, as He fights them in battle with the bows of His arm.

Topheth has long been prepared; it has been made ready for the king. It's firepit has been made deep and wide, with an abundance of fire and wood; the breath of the LORD, like a stream of burning sulfur, sets it ablaze.

ISAIAH Chapter 31:1,3  Woe to those who go down to Egypt for help, who rely on horses, who trust in multitude of their chariots and in great strength of their horse men, but do not look to the Holy One of Israel, or seek help from the LORD.  Yet He too is wise and can bring disaster; He does not take back His Words. He will rise up against the house of the wicked, against those who help evildoers. But the Egyptians are men and not God; their horses are flesh and not spirit.  When the LORD stretches out His hand, he who helps will stumble, he who is helped will fall; both will perish together.

We are only here to look to God. He is incharge of everything. I imagine His discust, His anger. And yet so many of us look to our Government, men that God cannot use because God has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts until He can finally get our attention.  And if that means to bring our Nation, our World down to nothing, than as you have read in ISAIAH, then that's what He will do... it's happening now, before our very eyes.

Thank you for reading. It's taken me forever to write this! God must really want you to know.

 

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Thank you Asha for your time and your response. I am a Christan and a believer in biblical prophecy. There is a reason the America is NOT included in the end times! You See Russia, Iran, Israel, Syria but nowhere does it reference another culture. we are missing, there is a reason for this!

Please go to my "We Surround Them" post. We, despite the politicians, are a country of principles, God fearing principles. Beliefs that this country was built on Belief in God!

Please take part and share this with your friends.

God Bless You and Keep You And Your Family Asha!

MRD

Posted 2009-03-07T23:36:07Z
 

We can't expect things to get better immediately and besides, we shouldn't rely on Obama alone to change things around. We've got to do our own share as well.

 
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Your direction,not your intention,determines your destination

Since you wrote this, things have really hit rock bottom. People are out of work by the millions and the government owns a few banks and car companies. The liars and thieves get richer and the poor get poorer. Can't see where things have got any better than we expected them to in the last seven months, and they will get worse if things are running true to form. Obama still hasn't learned anything in the last seven months and want if he continues into the 27th month.The old saying is true,"you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink", Obama has been criticized in media,face to face, and hundreds of other ways but just want learn.He is stubborn "as a mule", I think. What's your opinion?

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