Duality simplified
Denver <<Can your mindseye grasp the concept of the Human/Divinity seperation...the dual natures we all possess? The animalistic and the Godly? The parasite and the Host???'If not,perhaps there resides a veil in one of our lives. >>
Hi all... Hmm not so simple a question. Anyway I'll give it a shot, though we may not actually be addressing the same "issue" here. I guess it's not totally clear to me what YOU mean by Duality here Denver. For me DUALITY means the mind having the experience of 'MORE than ONE' even as there Ultimately IS only The ONE. As in There is ME..... and then there is everything else which is 'NOT me'. So, are we on the same page here? The same book? <g> Duality perceived from the dualistic State will appear to be far different from Duality when perceived from the Non-dual State.
To help get a handle on your perspective Denver... I took a peek at your home page and found....
<< my feeling is this:If ANYONE possesses "sacred" knowledge, or believes they are "sanctified",for a GREATER purpose, and doesn't share that gift with every person they encounter,THEY'RE full of $#!+... >> ~ ~ ..........................................................
*Faith's note on << ..or believes they are "sanctified">>
There is an ocean of difference between a mind that BELIEVES something and one who has transcended the mind completely and KNOWS a thing from its Absolute Perspective.
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OK so .. working from there ... would that suggest that a person who CAN perceive the color RED is ahh full of $#!+ <g> if they fail to give their color blind friend the actual experience of RED? Do you see where I am going here? Will all the explanations of light waves and rods and cones etc. actually GIVE anyone a direct experience of RED? No, and yet RED is a reality to many people even while it is hidden from others.
Just because someone cannot relate "Higher Knowledge" to another does not necessarily mean this Higher Knowledge does not exist (whatever that even might be) NOR is it necessarily either party's FAULT that that perception cannot be shared.. for whatever reason. ~ ~ ~ Lets face it... something we do not yet know, or comprehend... is ... well, currently unknown to us. But this does not necessarily suggest that this will always be the case. THIS dualistic reality is always subject to change... that is its nature.
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The short version:
The Dualistic State ... at least as I use the word, is when we have the EXPERIENCE of ourself,, via the MIND, as a finite individual... who is distinctly seperate from all other individuals. TO say... there is ME and everything else is seen as NOT ME. Even when we discover "God" / Higher Consciousneess, we continue to see ourselves as somehow separate and apart from THAT, AND.... we hold this as the ULTIMATE or Highest reality. This is the finite mind's perspective and experience as long as it remains in duality.
The Non-Dual State on the other hand is when we are able to RE-COGNIZE our True, all pervasive Self and are able, once again, to perceive ourselves as Pure Consciousness itself and KNOW that there is no separation.. from ANYTHING. All is of the same supreme essence.. regardless of the form it is currently taking. All sense of separation, imperfection and limitation exists in the mind alone, which acts as a super sophisticated vertual reality mahcine, and so ultimately is not REAL. In other words... Duality does have A reality, it is just not THE Ultimate or Transcendent Reality.
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Now.. Here's the part that Denver may not appreciate much... :P But that does not change the ultimate reality that the finite mind is not able to hold a Non-dual Perspective by the power of the intellect alone, just as, by analogy, it does not matter how smart a color blind person might be.... they still will not be able to perceive the color RED. And THIS is where Transcendent Knowledge comes in... where we are finally able to expand BEYOND the experiencial mind and perceive the SOURCE of mind. ~ ~ ~
The problem is that the finite mind which is still in duality ( in the realm of experience) WILL identify with the FALSE ego because it's true SELF IS indeed veiled from it. We do NOT have Knowledge of our True SELF until this veil is removed and THAT takes an act of supreme Grace.. to say the intervention of our own Higher Self, AND that happens when it happens. The finite mind cannot perceive its INFINITE Self of its own accord. First something else must happen. The false ego must be shattered. ~ ~ ~ ..................
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So, to the question.... << Can your mindseye grasp the concept of the Human/Divinity seperation...the dual natures we all possess? The animalistic and the Godly? The parasite and the Host???'If not,perhaps there resides a veil in one of our lives. >>
IF that mind's eye is still holding a Dualistic Only perspective ... to say it THINKS it is seperate from and different from everyone else and "GOD" or Higher SELF... then the anwer is NO, it cannot grasp its True Self and ITs ONEness AS THE ULTIMATE reality or perceive its innate Perfection everywhere... manifesting AS everything here.
However, once the "false" ego self has been shattered, by an act of Grace ( the Power of one's own Divine Higher SELF) Our dual nature will be recognized for what it is.... wrong identification with the "false" ego. Until the VEIL is removed.. true understanding will elude us. ~ ~ ~
Bottom line: The Dualistic perspective IS simple in that it is a perception that the finite, veiled mind is able to hold. Unlike the Non-dual / Transcendent perspective of the total ONEness AND Perfection of All things, which necessitates an AWAKENING of the dualistic mind that has no idea it was actually asleep. And that process of awakening is not so simple. Duality is when the mind makes the mistake of seeing the DREAM as somehow separate from The Dreamer. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~~
The Non-dual state is when the mind is fully Awakened and REALIZES its error...that there is no "OTHER". Dream and Dreamer ARE indeed ONE and the same and that ALL perception or imperfection and limitation belong to the veiled mind alone... and NOT the SOURCE of mind.
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SO.. that is AN Answer... just not quite sure it was THE answer you were looking for. :P Be well, Faith
