Disappointed valentine

   

Disappointed long time valentine i am in a long term relationship.  we are both middle aged.  he was going thru an expensive and nasty divorce when we started dating.  The relationship is 4+ years.  People describe our relationship as never having seen two people more in love and commitment to each other.  Sounds perfect? No.  He has said that he never wants to remarry.  In the beginning i thought it was the divorce and it probably was.  About six months ago we were at several different functions when he was asked if i was his wife, he smiled at me and said "she might as well be, but no not yet."  He lets people think that i am his wife if they just assume it.   He knows that I want to get married.  He bought a house and we have successfully lived togeher.  He is sending mixed message with these comments.  Other times especially recently as valentines day approached, and people got engaged or married how dumb they were to do that.  So when valentines day came and nothing produced, I became very dissappoint because i thought it might.  Any suggestions how to approacch him without pressuring him.  He knows that I am not myself and I cant hide my dissappoint so I know it will surface soon.  How do I let hin know how i feel without controversy arising. Help!!! I previously asked this and I received two replies, which is appreciated.  I am wondering if there are any other points of view out there. How about it guys? thanx


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The key word i was hearing in all responses was "communication" ..... Ironically, i realized that i more than he was the one who was more afraid of discussing the issue of marriage.  So i decided that since my writing skills made me more comfortable, i wrote him a "love letter" proposing marriage in a way that if he were to surprise me it still would be kinda his idea.  It was difficult at first because he didnt specifically acknowledge the note but more or less demonstrated his feelings with sentimental values.....So when i happened across the jewelry counter at a warehouse club while food shopping and was looking he came up to me nudging me with a smile and said if he is going to spend thousands on a diamond it wouldn't be at a warehouse club.  So it's progress!!!!


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Hi,

First of all I can understand the difficulty you're experiencing. It can certainly be disappointing to expect something and then be let down. It sounds to me as if he treats you as if you were married but he simply doesn't want to go through the formality. You need to talk to him about this but I think you should be prepared to hear that he doesn't want to ever get married again. Even if he says this I don't think it's because he doesn't love you but rather because he may not see what the point is.

I can understand why you want to get married but if you are living together and are basically functioning as a married couple why is it so important to you? Is it the commitment?
He may have gone through such a trauma with his first marriage that he simply doesn't want to leave the chance that he might have to go through it again. 

I think you should tell him how you feel in order to put the cards on the table. You can't keep waiting anxiously for something that may be very far away. No matter what his answer is you'll be better off knowing where you stand. 


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Thank you for your input.  i appreciate it. To answer your question, the importance to me is many-fold.  Commitment, maybe, I feel if our relationship is as solid as he says and I think it is, than why doesnt he prove it.  I see what you are saying about mabye he doesnt see the point.  However, I guess i am just a hopeless romantic that thinks very old fashion in regards to love.  Maybe I have watched too many chic flix who knows.  I also just converted to Roman Catholic, he was raised strict Catholic as well, so I dont understand why he is comfortable with his living arrangement.  I intended on keeping with the scaraments of the religion when I converted recently, which concludes that living together without the scarament of marriage is a sin.  Yes, he had a traumatic marriage, but so did I.  So traumatic, I don't want to die with my exhusband name (never took my maiden name back after being widowed).  There are a number of reasons which also inlude the awkwardness and uncomfortableness of correcting people because they assume you are husband and wife.  Also, i feel why have all the rsponsibility of marriage and none of the benefits (tax deductions, medical benefits, scar insurance  reduction,  etc.)

Either way, you are right laying the cards on the table is probably the thing to do who knows how long, if ever, a proposal would happen.

thanks again

 


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Children are God's gift to the world... 

Have you thought about couples counseling? It sounds like it would help you two learn to communicate better (without one getting defensive or one feeling as if the other is attacking). Your boyfriend might also have some unresolved feelings about his divorce that counseling would do him some good, and possibly enhance your relationship as well.


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Live simply, love generously and  care deeply.

 

Hi,

     I read your question carefully.  You are 53 years old, had been with your boyfriend for over 4 years and still he has not proposed marriage.  You had been very patient all along, you indicated to him your desire to formalize your relationship as in marriage. He even made comments abut people marrying as stupid.  Don't you understand what he is trying to tell you?  He is never going to marry you.  The proposal should come from the man,  not from the woman.  I am more old-fashioned when it comes

to this issue.  You don't have to be throwing hints at him.  If I were you,  I would talk to him one more time and point out to him that you want to be his wife, not a girlfriend forever.  If his answer is no he does not want to get married, then tell him that you are going to move out because what he is doing is just using you for sex,  I am sorry to say this, it is just like  you are working without even  being paid the minimum wage.  You are just there to satisfy his needs(sexual) without any benefits.

     I think you had been too nice for a long time.  It's time to be tough because you don't have any future with him.  He can find another woman  and dump you . 

     If he's not interested in marriage, probably you should move on and don't be used for another 7 years, you will tuurn 60 years old and at that time, it would be tough to find a man to marry.  Get out while you still have your beauty, you can still find a good man who deserves your loyalty, devotion, love and caring.  You are waiting for nothing.

      I hope you have your own profession so that you will be able to survive financially without this man.  Hopefully you are not with him because you can't afford to live comfortably by yourself.

     It will be tough at first, but it will get better after a while.  Enjoy life with your close friends, travel, get busy with your hobbies and eventually you will meet a nice man for you.

   I hope you won't get upset with all what I have said, but I am just tired of watching men taking advantage of women.  But the thing is these men will keep doing this because there are a lot of women who are allowing them to keep using them.

    I am a Catholic too and I just don't believe in this kind of lifestyle.

Be brave and do the right thing for you.  I'll be praying for you.

Rina

 

 


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