Anti-harassment petition discussion

Wildgypsy, It is getting so I can't follow any threads with all the name changing and duplicate names.  I tried reading that thread you wrote about, and I see old names on new accounts, and new names on old accounts, and people trying to pretend to be other people.  Yedda really screwed this whole thing up by letting this stuff happen and not stopping the counterfeit naming.

   Your videos of the Dubliners were running all over the page for a while and I couldn't read some of your posts.  Someone probably complained and the staff removed the videos.  They have removed a picture from one of my questions because the counterfeiters complained about it.  I replaced it with a video, but I haven't checked back in a couple of weeks to see if it is still there (or even if the thread is still there).

You can private message anyone by clicking on their avatar and going to their profile.  From there select "send a private message" and it will get sent to my e-mail account registered with Yedda.  I would suggest writing the letter in notepad or something first and pasting it into the message so you have a copy you can reuse.  Sometimes the private messaging doesn't work and there is no way to tell if the other person really got your message unless they answer it.

Jude, no, I didn't.  I just checked my e-mail and there was no message.  Sorry.  I guess the private message function isn't working.  Too bad.  I hate putting everything in public where the nut jobs can read it.  You can e-mail me directly but I don't want to put my address out in public.  But it is very easy to find if you look for it since I am a very public person.

Tippy, yeah, the nut jobs are busy today.  They have been attacking everybody that posts to me, too, so a lot of people are losing thumbs as we speak.  Even Yaniv is getting attacked, though I find it hard to feel sympathy for him over it.  Two years ago he said it would be "thumbs down with a reason" and if he had kept his promise none of this thumbs war would be happening.  And letting people post answers and thumbs without even confirming their e-mail address is just plain wrong.

    I am also getting annoyed that Yedda won't tell us anything about these crazies.  We could lean on their ISP to cut off their service, since this type of thing is probably prohibited by their terms of service.  It also would be nice to at least know what country this is all coming from.  We could write their embassy and ask for real help to stop these international attacks.

    Oh, well, I guess that in a few days I will move elsewhere.  There is no point in staying if I have to give up my profile and my history here just to stop being harassed on every thread I post to, and dragging new people into the mess everytime they respond to me.

   While I hope that Yedda does end this once and for all, I seriously have my doubts and I am continuing to look at other sites without these problems.

    People like this "he has risen" that use religion as a cover for their personal evil are .....  well, words fail me.  I just want to forget about it and go away.  The solution to the problem is too easy and Yedda is too lax for allowing it.

Repartee, I ran across a "Yadja" post in which the poster claimed to have 107 Yedda accounts.  I reported that post to Yedda with a note pointing out the remark and left it at that.

The best thing to do is report the post and ignore them otherwise.  Everytime you make a post to them, they think they are winning, or at least in the game and still fighting.

There is an old saying, "The best revenge is a life well lived."

The more you ignore them and have fun on Yedda, the worse they will feel, and the more helpless they will become.  Everytime they see you responding to them they will just feel encouraged to attack you more because they can see it affects you.  You win by being happy and carefree, and that is not a bad thing.

George, thanks for your thoughts.  If all of OronD's thumbs up were tallied without the thumbs down, he would have over twenty thousand of them, at least, maybe more, and deserving of them all.  I don't give out thumbs up or down very often, and I don't pay a lot of attention to them, though if they worked well I would probably take them more seriously.  But the numbers are too easy to manipulate, which is why we see people with 10 answers and 600 thumbs up, and people with a thousand answers with hardly any thumbs up.  Page through the highest ratings list and you will see what I mean.

I am more interested in the moderation aspect of the blogs, and the inability to get rid of bad/inappropriate/malicious answers.  Yedda used to much better moderated with a staff that was proactive, looking out for problem posters.  They (the staff) seem to be gone now, and all I want is the tools that they left behind to control the insanity.  I know there are some staff left, and if you write them often enough eventually they do something to a specific post or poster, but that is a reactionary position, and not very timely.  In my position, I have thousands of blogs I have posted answers on, and for me to write a letter to the staff every time some crazy follows my posts around and posts nonsense to try and drive me off would take a lot of writing and time.

    Like you, some of my answers take a half hour or more to walk someone through a DIY problem.  I only have so much time in a day to spend altruistically helping strangers, the same as everybody else.  To spend time writing to the staff when I could just push the delete button means someone isn't getting an answer from me.  Just trying to deal with pushing for a small change has cost me probably fifty answers to people who need some kind of help or attention that won't get it from me, and possibly from no one.  There are thousands and thousands of unanswered questions here, and many of them were probably important to whoever asked.

    I also answer a lot of medical questions, and getting the right answer is important, sometimes life or death.  Obviously we can't be held responsible for someone not getting the help or advice they need, or not standing between them and a bad answer.  But, as often as I insist that this is just fun, it is deadly serious at times.  That is the most important reason for having moderators, because people can get hurt as a by product of knowledge or ignorance, and someone with common sense and a sense of calm needs to keep an eye on things 24/7.

Tippy, don't worry, I am staying strong, but the problem isn't all that hard for them to solve. Every other site has protections in place to stop this stuff from happening. I mimicked fifthbeatle as an experiment to see how easy it is to do. It is too incredibly easy to do. If anyone wanted to mimick the partner sites, they could do that too, and insult everybody in the name of AOL or WalletPop or Eric Stromer. It would take you exactly two minutes to do. Everybody already knows how to do it. If the nut job went and did that then there would be some action. Which is why I keep repeating that same thing over and over. Eventually the weirdos will see it, and do it, and then Yedda will finally fix the problem or go out of business. But our stalkers are pretty damn stupid. This is like the tenth time I have thrown this idea in their faces and they just are too stupid to rise above their petty attacks and go for the big targets. If I can't depend on Yedda and I can't depend on my stalkers, what have I got besides my sense of humor? This is a surreal fight where no one has given me a clue as what their true motives are other than the Yeddai. The attackers attack everybody indiscriminately except where they seem to be following us, and tagging everybody we post to. Yedda does nothing for years while all this has been going on before we got here to others. The thumbs war has been going on since the beginning. The cloning I didn't know about until recently but could have been going on without my noticing for a long time. It never occurred to me that that could happen, since it can't happen anywhere else. The multiple accounts was a given, but most sites verify e-mail addesses before they let you use a name. None let you use a name already in use. It is just too crazy on all sides of us, and I am tired of trying to figure out what these people are doing. It was fun for a while, but the while has ended for the foreseeable future. I would rather put my mind to better use. If I can't help people by writing here, I can help them elsewhere. And help myself, too, instead of going in circles about this. I can't fix this problem, it's not my site. All I can do is what I have done. I suppose I could write more, and gather more people together, but would that do anything? We already have the highest rated and most active people involved, plus others. People have been spending hours writing about this to each other and the staff. I gave my deadline for a reason. It was the strongest show of force I could make, and I have to stick to my word, for on Yedda that is all I am, my words. Whether my words are written on paper, or as strings of electrons forming a symbolic pattern of ones and naughts, or spoken and immediately forgotten by others, my word is still my word. I try to keep it. I may fail at times, but I don't think so here and now. To not keep it would hurt others more than it would help. Have you ever read or seen "The tragedy of Hamlet, Prince of Denmark" by Bill Shakespeare? A really funny play (well, from my viewpoint, and probably Bill's) where this guy Hamlet delays action throughout the whole play, until everybody is dead. Well, in this case Yedda is Hamlet, and the stalkers are the pretender to the throne who killed Hamlet's father. We are the rest of the cast who get to die for no good reason, because Hamlet won't do what his father's ghost tells him to do from the very beginning. Some of the cast leave before the blood bath, and that is the part I think I will play, Rosencrantz. He might be the one who comes back at the very end and sees all the corpses, or maybe it was Guiderstern. Regardless, a very funny play with an unhappy ending. Good night.